HTC Incredible :: Battery Worse - Lack Of Task Killers
Sep 2, 2010
My battery has never been worse since upgrading to Froyo. I don't use an auto task killer but I did use SystemPanel to manually close applications once in awhile. Now that I can't kill tasks easily, I just let everything run to see how it would turn out. I'm not saying the battery life is horrible, but it is noticeably worse now. I realize users experience will vary based on how many applications they have installed and running. I have not installed any new applications since Froyo.
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Sep 29, 2010
Just ran across this. Very good information. Even makes a reference to Android Forums.Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them
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Sep 13, 2010
I used to use Advance Task Killer and Auto Task Killer on my 2.1, but I think I read somewhere that with Froyo (CM6 flash) they are not needed?Do I need to worry about apps that I'm not able to close out normally, or will Froyo run fine or even faster without a task killer?
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Jan 12, 2010
I have an app on my daughters phone that will not allow her to text and drive. The problem is she can use any task killer and kill the app and bypass the application. So my question is, is there a way to hide an app from the task killers, or have the app check to see if it is running, and if not restart its self?
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May 10, 2010
I've read around alot about people saying task killers aren't needed because Android is Linux based (not windows) and can handle all the apps in the background so theres not need for a task killer. My question is arent there apps or services that take up alot of memory and shouldn't be constantly running (without you knowing that is) For example there are apps that constantly update (recieve data) like Mail or twitter or Anti-virus (which constantly is on the guard for new apps or settings being changed). I also noticed that after taking pictures with my phone camera it said the camera was running when i already closed it. i checked running services under the settings and the camera was taking 74% of my usage (i did refresh many times to make sure it was running). I've came to the conclusion that task killer is good for a few apps that are constantly running in the background but not as much for apps that don't constantly run in the background (like games, after you close them)
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Aug 1, 2010
On froyo I have noticed that app killer is not killing the apps properly. When I kill the apps and then reopen them, it goes back to the last screen.
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Jul 25, 2010
I understand the concept behind not needing to use them when it comes to ram usage; if a program isn't active its ram can be released so it can be used by other applications.however, how does the android OS deal with cpu use by applications not active? this is the only reason i would think apps should be killed; there's nothing preventing them from using up cpu cycles while in the background.do they need to make special api calls to use cycles if not active?
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Sep 30, 2010
I searched for previous posts of this and found no less than 4 separate threads.I decided to post this anyway because all of the other threads I found were inexplicably in device-specific forums.An interesting article on Lifehacker with more information to backup the argument than I have seen elsewhere (above-referenced posts excluded).
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Jun 12, 2010
I'm very new here and am not tech savvy at all. I'm about to get my HTC evo, but I have read some people say get a app or task killer while others say its bad for an adroid phone. So, let's say I don't get a task killer app at all, how do you close applicatons?
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Feb 24, 2010
I've been reading a lot about the task killer and AV apps here, but I am wondering if
1 - are TK apps really nessessary? Does it help with battery life and why would you want to kill an app? I've read somewhere that TK apps are not nesscessary b/c android is a linux system.
2 - Can we get viruses on our phones? Are the Free AV apps we get here in Canada, since we cannot buy apps, good? Do they really protect our phones?
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Jun 7, 2010
One thing i have noticed since i have made the jump to 2.2 is that apps keep restarting back up. I use Advanced Task Killer, and before i could open it up kill all my designated tasks after a reboot, and they would stay dead until they i restarted them again. But since the jump to 2.2 i kill all me designated apps, and 20 or 30 mins later, they are back up an running again.what gives?Is a better task killer needed?
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Aug 24, 2010
I get that some of you are strongly convinced that task killers are of the devil. But the simple fact is this. When I got my Evo I was told to download ATK by the rep at Sprint. I put the widget on my home screen and used it like a dope fiend. And maybe I was self medicating, but my battery life sucked, and using it made my battery life suck less. Then, along came froyo, ATK stopped working, I read all the forums and got rid of ATK. Now my battery is worse than its ever been. I want to be able to look my apps and have them remain dead until I say so because its MY phone. That being said are there ANY task killers that work with froyo?
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Aug 9, 2010
I've read enough to understand that task killing under froyo is not necessary to save the battery. However, I do not like the way applications tend to open in the exact same place that I "closed" them. More often than not, when i open an app, i would much rather start with the "home" page.This is especially true with the calendar and the web browser.Is there any app out there that can help with this?
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Feb 21, 2010
I have had Advanced task killer installed about a week and its not really improving battery life noticeably. Also, when I look at open apps, random things like Sprint Navigation is open most the time, I haven't used it in weeks and if I keep killing it, how does it keep opening? Not really sure this thing does too much.
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Jun 28, 2010
I just read this article:
Android Developers Blog: Multitasking the Android Way
and it talks about how Android itself handles multitasking. The problem I'm running into is this: I stopped using Advanced Task Killer because people are saying that it's not healthy for your device, which makes sense to me as it seems like you're using CTRL ALT DELETE to close a program every time, and that just doesn't seem like a good idea.I understand that this isn't windows and it works completely different, but I still stopped using it because it seemed a bit harsh.After reading the above article I realize that this is how Android itself closes apps, by "brutally killing them" as the article says.If this is how Android itself closes apps when it needs more memory, why are task killers not a good idea?
If somebody could dumb it down for me so I can understand I'd appreciate it, as I'm a total Android n00b.
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Nov 22, 2009
There's a thread similar to this on one of the Hero forums. I tried to stop using the task managers on the hero, but I noticed a quite a bit of lag once stuff kept building up. On the Moment, I was running into several issues with apps, and I figured it was due to the task manager (i use advance task manager). So to test my theory I stopped using the task manager and the device works as it should. What i found was that even with a lot of usage, this device does not slow down. Not sure if it's the lack of the sense ui (i'm using open home), the fast processor, both or what but this phone can handle everything I'm throwing at it.My advice, stop using whatever task killer you're using. One less thing to worry about makes for a better phone experience.
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Apr 30, 2010
I'm receiving a few emails per week with complain that my widget stopped working. In all cases when we do investigation the cause is some kind of task killer. What is worse that not everybody contacts me by email bug gives bad rating even if my application is not working incorrectly. I made remedy: wrote it to documentation (http://android.hubalek.net), wrote it to application main screen and wrote it do application description but people either don't know what exactly task killers do and how they work or just don't read doc.I think that Google should prohibit all task killers as they are malicious and are breaking other apps.
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Aug 23, 2010
I notice there are a number of apps for dealing with turning off apps that are running in the background and using memory
1. Which is the best task killer app out there?
2. How much memory should you generally as a rule of thumb keep available at anytime?
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Oct 28, 2010
I wanted to ask everyone what their experience is with task killers, because alot of people say their battery lasts longer with one but others say it does not make a difference.Can everyone post what task killer they use, and what difference it makes on their phone, or state that you do not use one, and why.
I used Advanced Task Killer Pro and when people were saying they were not needed, I uninstalled it, after 2 weeks I have noticed that my battery does not last as long as it did when I had the task killer installed, so I will be re-installing it.
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Jul 17, 2010
When i first got my hero i was told to install a taskiller.I found this annoying and bothersome and my phone had several issues such as force closing and awake time.Then i read somewhere online that Android "is a smart os" and you don't need a task killer.So I uninstalled.Everything got better.My phone will lag or slow down here and there, but i think that's more the insufficient hardware of the hero.Usually I just wait a second and it's fine.Or press the home key.But here's the thing.I bought my wife an Intercept, and two best buy mobile employees told me to install a task killer - that this is how you "manage" android.Honestly, if this were true.Which I don't believe it is.I would not like the Android OS.But then a Sprint employee told me to also install a task killer.Only HTC has confirmed my earlier understanding that they're not necessary.So I've heard mixed things.In my own limited experience, it's not necessary.But i still see articles and forum posts talking about using them.So what is it? Are task killers a nagging and persistent myth.Or is there any real net benefit from using them? Or is it that they were more useful to version 1.5?
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Nov 18, 2009
Does anyone else find that their battery does best at like 60%-70% charged and when it gets below 40 it moves a lot quicker? Also I've done 3 full drain and full recharges so far and my battery has improved sloightly each time, do you reccomend I do it again or is that just bad for the battery?
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Jul 24, 2010
I have an old BT GPS receiver. Just curious if using BT to connect to a GPS device would eat battery worse than the built in GPS? Also, is there a way to get Google maps to toggle GPS automatically?
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Apr 24, 2010
The only thing putting me off rooting my Hero and installing the villain 5.3 ROM is concern about whether it will shorten the amount of time I can go between battery charges. Does anyone have any numbers on this, or even just impressions about whether consumption is better or worse than on the standard 1.6 ROM.
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Oct 7, 2010
The so called "task killers" are sort of pain in my *** as users keep using it w/o understanding it, so I decided to check installed apps to find out if TK is installed and if so, warn the user about the potential consequences. Anyone got by any chance list of such apps (or packages) to share?
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Nov 27, 2010
I rooted my Epic and put froyo on it. Since then, my battery life has got worse, and the phone isn't as responsive. Id like to go back to 2.1, but can't seem to figure out how. Anybody else having problems?
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May 11, 2010
I have Open Advanced Task Killer on my HTC Desire and wondered whether it was actually worth keeping. I usually have quite a lot running most of the time it seems, and I thought perhaps killing some apps every once in a while if I'm not using them would save battery. But is it worth it and is there a better app for this out there if it's worth having one at all?
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Sep 1, 2010
I saw a post today and was wondering if there is any truth behind this:"Task killers are pointless. Android powered phones have one built in, dont use one on my rooted nonsensikal froyo. Runs better then when I had it."
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Jul 8, 2010
I find it amusing how many Senseless ROMS are popping up. The majority of all ROMS thus far are Senseless and I don't really get it. The main reason I sold my MotoDroid to get the HTC Incredible was for SenseUI and now everybody is wanting to ditch it. I need more Sense ROMs to play with and theres just nothing to choose from. SO I figured I would start a poll and see if I am the only one. So is it a Sense or Senseless ROM preference?
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Aug 22, 2010
Did you see that Bell wireless is discontinuing their HTC Legend phones because of screen shortages. They are not taking any more orders for Legends'. Hmmmm.... makes me wonder how long before our incredible Incredibles' follow. We could soon all be owners of a very rare breed though! Might increase re-sale value.
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May 20, 2010
I'm having some call quality issues but they're mainly on the other end of the line. Those I'm speaking to are picking up some static/background noise. I really don't have any complaints with the call quality on my end. Also, I've noticed it seems to be worse when I'm in the car traveling. If I'm at home and make a call, others tell me the call is clear. Anyone else experience a similar scenario?
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