Android :: Task Killers And Antivirus Apps
Feb 24, 2010
I've been reading a lot about the task killer and AV apps here, but I am wondering if
1 - are TK apps really nessessary? Does it help with battery life and why would you want to kill an app? I've read somewhere that TK apps are not nesscessary b/c android is a linux system.
2 - Can we get viruses on our phones? Are the Free AV apps we get here in Canada, since we cannot buy apps, good? Do they really protect our phones?
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Jun 12, 2010
I'm very new here and am not tech savvy at all. I'm about to get my HTC evo, but I have read some people say get a app or task killer while others say its bad for an adroid phone. So, let's say I don't get a task killer app at all, how do you close applicatons?
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Jan 12, 2010
I have an app on my daughters phone that will not allow her to text and drive. The problem is she can use any task killer and kill the app and bypass the application. So my question is, is there a way to hide an app from the task killers, or have the app check to see if it is running, and if not restart its self?
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May 10, 2010
I've read around alot about people saying task killers aren't needed because Android is Linux based (not windows) and can handle all the apps in the background so theres not need for a task killer. My question is arent there apps or services that take up alot of memory and shouldn't be constantly running (without you knowing that is) For example there are apps that constantly update (recieve data) like Mail or twitter or Anti-virus (which constantly is on the guard for new apps or settings being changed). I also noticed that after taking pictures with my phone camera it said the camera was running when i already closed it. i checked running services under the settings and the camera was taking 74% of my usage (i did refresh many times to make sure it was running). I've came to the conclusion that task killer is good for a few apps that are constantly running in the background but not as much for apps that don't constantly run in the background (like games, after you close them)
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Sep 30, 2010
I searched for previous posts of this and found no less than 4 separate threads.I decided to post this anyway because all of the other threads I found were inexplicably in device-specific forums.An interesting article on Lifehacker with more information to backup the argument than I have seen elsewhere (above-referenced posts excluded).
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Aug 24, 2010
I get that some of you are strongly convinced that task killers are of the devil. But the simple fact is this. When I got my Evo I was told to download ATK by the rep at Sprint. I put the widget on my home screen and used it like a dope fiend. And maybe I was self medicating, but my battery life sucked, and using it made my battery life suck less. Then, along came froyo, ATK stopped working, I read all the forums and got rid of ATK. Now my battery is worse than its ever been. I want to be able to look my apps and have them remain dead until I say so because its MY phone. That being said are there ANY task killers that work with froyo?
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Jun 28, 2010
I just read this article:
Android Developers Blog: Multitasking the Android Way
and it talks about how Android itself handles multitasking. The problem I'm running into is this: I stopped using Advanced Task Killer because people are saying that it's not healthy for your device, which makes sense to me as it seems like you're using CTRL ALT DELETE to close a program every time, and that just doesn't seem like a good idea.I understand that this isn't windows and it works completely different, but I still stopped using it because it seemed a bit harsh.After reading the above article I realize that this is how Android itself closes apps, by "brutally killing them" as the article says.If this is how Android itself closes apps when it needs more memory, why are task killers not a good idea?
If somebody could dumb it down for me so I can understand I'd appreciate it, as I'm a total Android n00b.
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Apr 30, 2010
I'm receiving a few emails per week with complain that my widget stopped working. In all cases when we do investigation the cause is some kind of task killer. What is worse that not everybody contacts me by email bug gives bad rating even if my application is not working incorrectly. I made remedy: wrote it to documentation (http://android.hubalek.net), wrote it to application main screen and wrote it do application description but people either don't know what exactly task killers do and how they work or just don't read doc.I think that Google should prohibit all task killers as they are malicious and are breaking other apps.
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Sep 13, 2010
I used to use Advance Task Killer and Auto Task Killer on my 2.1, but I think I read somewhere that with Froyo (CM6 flash) they are not needed?Do I need to worry about apps that I'm not able to close out normally, or will Froyo run fine or even faster without a task killer?
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Aug 1, 2010
On froyo I have noticed that app killer is not killing the apps properly. When I kill the apps and then reopen them, it goes back to the last screen.
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Jul 25, 2010
I understand the concept behind not needing to use them when it comes to ram usage; if a program isn't active its ram can be released so it can be used by other applications.however, how does the android OS deal with cpu use by applications not active? this is the only reason i would think apps should be killed; there's nothing preventing them from using up cpu cycles while in the background.do they need to make special api calls to use cycles if not active?
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Jun 7, 2010
One thing i have noticed since i have made the jump to 2.2 is that apps keep restarting back up. I use Advanced Task Killer, and before i could open it up kill all my designated tasks after a reboot, and they would stay dead until they i restarted them again. But since the jump to 2.2 i kill all me designated apps, and 20 or 30 mins later, they are back up an running again.what gives?Is a better task killer needed?
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Aug 9, 2010
I've read enough to understand that task killing under froyo is not necessary to save the battery. However, I do not like the way applications tend to open in the exact same place that I "closed" them. More often than not, when i open an app, i would much rather start with the "home" page.This is especially true with the calendar and the web browser.Is there any app out there that can help with this?
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Feb 21, 2010
I have had Advanced task killer installed about a week and its not really improving battery life noticeably. Also, when I look at open apps, random things like Sprint Navigation is open most the time, I haven't used it in weeks and if I keep killing it, how does it keep opening? Not really sure this thing does too much.
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Sep 29, 2010
Just ran across this. Very good information. Even makes a reference to Android Forums.Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them
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Sep 2, 2010
My battery has never been worse since upgrading to Froyo. I don't use an auto task killer but I did use SystemPanel to manually close applications once in awhile. Now that I can't kill tasks easily, I just let everything run to see how it would turn out. I'm not saying the battery life is horrible, but it is noticeably worse now. I realize users experience will vary based on how many applications they have installed and running. I have not installed any new applications since Froyo.
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Nov 22, 2009
There's a thread similar to this on one of the Hero forums. I tried to stop using the task managers on the hero, but I noticed a quite a bit of lag once stuff kept building up. On the Moment, I was running into several issues with apps, and I figured it was due to the task manager (i use advance task manager). So to test my theory I stopped using the task manager and the device works as it should. What i found was that even with a lot of usage, this device does not slow down. Not sure if it's the lack of the sense ui (i'm using open home), the fast processor, both or what but this phone can handle everything I'm throwing at it.My advice, stop using whatever task killer you're using. One less thing to worry about makes for a better phone experience.
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Aug 23, 2010
I notice there are a number of apps for dealing with turning off apps that are running in the background and using memory
1. Which is the best task killer app out there?
2. How much memory should you generally as a rule of thumb keep available at anytime?
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Oct 28, 2010
I wanted to ask everyone what their experience is with task killers, because alot of people say their battery lasts longer with one but others say it does not make a difference.Can everyone post what task killer they use, and what difference it makes on their phone, or state that you do not use one, and why.
I used Advanced Task Killer Pro and when people were saying they were not needed, I uninstalled it, after 2 weeks I have noticed that my battery does not last as long as it did when I had the task killer installed, so I will be re-installing it.
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Jul 17, 2010
When i first got my hero i was told to install a taskiller.I found this annoying and bothersome and my phone had several issues such as force closing and awake time.Then i read somewhere online that Android "is a smart os" and you don't need a task killer.So I uninstalled.Everything got better.My phone will lag or slow down here and there, but i think that's more the insufficient hardware of the hero.Usually I just wait a second and it's fine.Or press the home key.But here's the thing.I bought my wife an Intercept, and two best buy mobile employees told me to install a task killer - that this is how you "manage" android.Honestly, if this were true.Which I don't believe it is.I would not like the Android OS.But then a Sprint employee told me to also install a task killer.Only HTC has confirmed my earlier understanding that they're not necessary.So I've heard mixed things.In my own limited experience, it's not necessary.But i still see articles and forum posts talking about using them.So what is it? Are task killers a nagging and persistent myth.Or is there any real net benefit from using them? Or is it that they were more useful to version 1.5?
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Oct 7, 2010
The so called "task killers" are sort of pain in my *** as users keep using it w/o understanding it, so I decided to check installed apps to find out if TK is installed and if so, warn the user about the potential consequences. Anyone got by any chance list of such apps (or packages) to share?
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Sep 1, 2010
I saw a post today and was wondering if there is any truth behind this:"Task killers are pointless. Android powered phones have one built in, dont use one on my rooted nonsensikal froyo. Runs better then when I had it."
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Aug 14, 2010
I'm sure its been covered somewhere but does anyone have an explanation as to why when I open advanced task killer it tells me a bunch of apps, that I didn't open, are running? Doesn't really slow my phone down too much, just annoying... Running Eris Root KaosFroyo
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May 25, 2010
How do you know which ones to kill and which to keep going? If I kill say a running app like smooth calendar will it restart automatically again when needed? I have an app called missed call now if I kill that will it still work when I have a missed call and allow the led light to blink or once I kill it I have to manually start it back up?
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Feb 17, 2010
I am considering getting a Motorola Milestone, which should ship with Android 2.something.I have a Nokia, and I really like the multitasking of the Symbian environment. How is it going to be different with Android? Is it a true multitasking os like Symbian or is it not, like the iphone? How do I switch from one application to another? Is there a button which shows all running apps? I read comments that, on some phones, switching from the web browser to another app and then back to the browser causes the page to reload from scratch. Is this still true or was it a limitation of older versions? Is there a task killer? I read very contradicting opinions on this, but I must say I do not understand why I should leave open an app I don't need, and how much an app left open uses system resources (battery life and RAM): I would have thought that its impact on system performance might have been minimal, but still > 0, right? Then why not close it altogether? Or am I missing something here?
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Nov 29, 2009
I've had my hero for 3 or 4 days now.I understand that i do not need a task manager to shut-down apps, but don't fully understand how this works,since apps like Pandora (music streaming) and sportypal (gps tracking) continue to run in the "background." Adding to my confusion is the fact that I'm noticing the phone get sluggish lately, even after a fresh reboot, with only two programs running (Pandora and sportypal). The past 3 days, there were no problems, but now I cannot run with music because the music continues to skip - and pandora becomes unresponsive.I thought perhaps there were too many apps (I've downloaded about a dozen apps) and so I uninstalled most of them.No better.What, if anything, am I missing? Can I be low on space or memory, or what?
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Dec 17, 2009
what I understand there are apps that will automatically restart even after you kill them? I often see things such as Spring Nav, Calander, VM, IM, Voice Search etc etc, in the task screen...even when i havent been on the program all day and have killed it. Why do these start back up and, is there a way to keep them off? I only ask because I notice my phone starts to lag and when i check the ATK i see several draining my memory (and battery?) so I try and clear em out again and it speed up after that. Better app out there? This is really getting irritating...should i uninstall the ATK and let the phone manage memory and would that keep it lag free? I love this damn phone and the things I can be free to do now...just hate having stuff running that slows me down when I dont need it.
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Oct 11, 2010
I have a Task Manager program and when I open it up to see what's running and what Apps I want to kill I see these listed:
Alarm & Timer (Never used)
Amazon MP3 (Never used)
AppBrain
City ID
Contacts
Dialer
Digital Clock Widget
Dolphin Browser
Ebay (icon on desktop but rarely used)
Facebook
Gmail
Live Scores (Installed but not used)
Mail
Market
MediaShare (Never set up any devices)
Messenger
Music (I'm guessing this is because I have custom ringtones?)
News (No news widget installed)
News and Weather (No news and weather widget installed)
Quickoffice (Installed but never used)
settings
Skype Mobile (Never Used)
Social Networking (Never Used)
Text Messaging (Don't Text AT ALL)
The Weather Channel
Voice Commands (Never Used)
Why do so many of these things start themselves back up and is there a way to stop it?
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Nov 4, 2010
I have the DroidX, everytime I go into Task Killer I see mostly all the apps I have are already started, without me physically starting them. So, I kill all the apps but when I go back into task killer thay are all started once again. Seems to me these apps shouldnt be started unless I started them. Not automatically started. It's killing my battery life.
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Jun 17, 2010
I like how in winmo , you can click the top right icon area and pull up all open apps to quickly switch between them. with android, i have to hit the home screen, swipe left (usually one time) to find my app and "re-open" it again. it's a hassle. maybe android doesn't have this option, maybe it's just a winmo thing, but i'm still getting adjusted from winmo > android.
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