Sprint HTC Hero :: Task Killers And CM6
Sep 13, 2010
I used to use Advance Task Killer and Auto Task Killer on my 2.1, but I think I read somewhere that with Froyo (CM6 flash) they are not needed?Do I need to worry about apps that I'm not able to close out normally, or will Froyo run fine or even faster without a task killer?
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Feb 21, 2010
I have had Advanced task killer installed about a week and its not really improving battery life noticeably. Also, when I look at open apps, random things like Sprint Navigation is open most the time, I haven't used it in weeks and if I keep killing it, how does it keep opening? Not really sure this thing does too much.
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Jul 17, 2010
When i first got my hero i was told to install a taskiller.I found this annoying and bothersome and my phone had several issues such as force closing and awake time.Then i read somewhere online that Android "is a smart os" and you don't need a task killer.So I uninstalled.Everything got better.My phone will lag or slow down here and there, but i think that's more the insufficient hardware of the hero.Usually I just wait a second and it's fine.Or press the home key.But here's the thing.I bought my wife an Intercept, and two best buy mobile employees told me to install a task killer - that this is how you "manage" android.Honestly, if this were true.Which I don't believe it is.I would not like the Android OS.But then a Sprint employee told me to also install a task killer.Only HTC has confirmed my earlier understanding that they're not necessary.So I've heard mixed things.In my own limited experience, it's not necessary.But i still see articles and forum posts talking about using them.So what is it? Are task killers a nagging and persistent myth.Or is there any real net benefit from using them? Or is it that they were more useful to version 1.5?
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Nov 7, 2009
I've been using Task Panel X and Advanced Task manager to kill unneeded tasks and keep memory at a maximum.
Recently, every time I open Task Panel X and then revert back to Home screen I get the HTC logo and then a loading screen while the device sets itself. This happens even if I kill NO tasks.
So my solution was to uninstall Task Panel X and then use just Advanced Task Manager. All the sudden, same result.
Everytime I open either of these apps and then go back to home screen I get a BLACK SCREEN WITH HTC LOGO, THEN A BRIEF (10 SECONDS) LOADING SCREEN. THEN ALL IS NORMAL.
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Jan 12, 2010
I have an app on my daughters phone that will not allow her to text and drive. The problem is she can use any task killer and kill the app and bypass the application. So my question is, is there a way to hide an app from the task killers, or have the app check to see if it is running, and if not restart its self?
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May 10, 2010
I've read around alot about people saying task killers aren't needed because Android is Linux based (not windows) and can handle all the apps in the background so theres not need for a task killer. My question is arent there apps or services that take up alot of memory and shouldn't be constantly running (without you knowing that is) For example there are apps that constantly update (recieve data) like Mail or twitter or Anti-virus (which constantly is on the guard for new apps or settings being changed). I also noticed that after taking pictures with my phone camera it said the camera was running when i already closed it. i checked running services under the settings and the camera was taking 74% of my usage (i did refresh many times to make sure it was running). I've came to the conclusion that task killer is good for a few apps that are constantly running in the background but not as much for apps that don't constantly run in the background (like games, after you close them)
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Aug 1, 2010
On froyo I have noticed that app killer is not killing the apps properly. When I kill the apps and then reopen them, it goes back to the last screen.
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Jul 25, 2010
I understand the concept behind not needing to use them when it comes to ram usage; if a program isn't active its ram can be released so it can be used by other applications.however, how does the android OS deal with cpu use by applications not active? this is the only reason i would think apps should be killed; there's nothing preventing them from using up cpu cycles while in the background.do they need to make special api calls to use cycles if not active?
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Sep 30, 2010
I searched for previous posts of this and found no less than 4 separate threads.I decided to post this anyway because all of the other threads I found were inexplicably in device-specific forums.An interesting article on Lifehacker with more information to backup the argument than I have seen elsewhere (above-referenced posts excluded).
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Jun 12, 2010
I'm very new here and am not tech savvy at all. I'm about to get my HTC evo, but I have read some people say get a app or task killer while others say its bad for an adroid phone. So, let's say I don't get a task killer app at all, how do you close applicatons?
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Feb 24, 2010
I've been reading a lot about the task killer and AV apps here, but I am wondering if
1 - are TK apps really nessessary? Does it help with battery life and why would you want to kill an app? I've read somewhere that TK apps are not nesscessary b/c android is a linux system.
2 - Can we get viruses on our phones? Are the Free AV apps we get here in Canada, since we cannot buy apps, good? Do they really protect our phones?
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Jun 7, 2010
One thing i have noticed since i have made the jump to 2.2 is that apps keep restarting back up. I use Advanced Task Killer, and before i could open it up kill all my designated tasks after a reboot, and they would stay dead until they i restarted them again. But since the jump to 2.2 i kill all me designated apps, and 20 or 30 mins later, they are back up an running again.what gives?Is a better task killer needed?
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Aug 24, 2010
I get that some of you are strongly convinced that task killers are of the devil. But the simple fact is this. When I got my Evo I was told to download ATK by the rep at Sprint. I put the widget on my home screen and used it like a dope fiend. And maybe I was self medicating, but my battery life sucked, and using it made my battery life suck less. Then, along came froyo, ATK stopped working, I read all the forums and got rid of ATK. Now my battery is worse than its ever been. I want to be able to look my apps and have them remain dead until I say so because its MY phone. That being said are there ANY task killers that work with froyo?
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Aug 9, 2010
I've read enough to understand that task killing under froyo is not necessary to save the battery. However, I do not like the way applications tend to open in the exact same place that I "closed" them. More often than not, when i open an app, i would much rather start with the "home" page.This is especially true with the calendar and the web browser.Is there any app out there that can help with this?
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Sep 29, 2010
Just ran across this. Very good information. Even makes a reference to Android Forums.Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them
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Jun 28, 2010
I just read this article:
Android Developers Blog: Multitasking the Android Way
and it talks about how Android itself handles multitasking. The problem I'm running into is this: I stopped using Advanced Task Killer because people are saying that it's not healthy for your device, which makes sense to me as it seems like you're using CTRL ALT DELETE to close a program every time, and that just doesn't seem like a good idea.I understand that this isn't windows and it works completely different, but I still stopped using it because it seemed a bit harsh.After reading the above article I realize that this is how Android itself closes apps, by "brutally killing them" as the article says.If this is how Android itself closes apps when it needs more memory, why are task killers not a good idea?
If somebody could dumb it down for me so I can understand I'd appreciate it, as I'm a total Android n00b.
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Oct 15, 2009
Looking for a guide on how to use task killer. I had task killer on and deleted it. I think I was killing tasks that were needed to keep certain functions running that I use frequently. If someone would take the time to help me understand how to use one, I think I would be much more successful with it.
example - text messaging just stopped ( werrent receiving them ) . Once I took task killer off, everything started working again.
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Sep 2, 2010
My battery has never been worse since upgrading to Froyo. I don't use an auto task killer but I did use SystemPanel to manually close applications once in awhile. Now that I can't kill tasks easily, I just let everything run to see how it would turn out. I'm not saying the battery life is horrible, but it is noticeably worse now. I realize users experience will vary based on how many applications they have installed and running. I have not installed any new applications since Froyo.
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Nov 22, 2009
There's a thread similar to this on one of the Hero forums. I tried to stop using the task managers on the hero, but I noticed a quite a bit of lag once stuff kept building up. On the Moment, I was running into several issues with apps, and I figured it was due to the task manager (i use advance task manager). So to test my theory I stopped using the task manager and the device works as it should. What i found was that even with a lot of usage, this device does not slow down. Not sure if it's the lack of the sense ui (i'm using open home), the fast processor, both or what but this phone can handle everything I'm throwing at it.My advice, stop using whatever task killer you're using. One less thing to worry about makes for a better phone experience.
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Apr 30, 2010
I'm receiving a few emails per week with complain that my widget stopped working. In all cases when we do investigation the cause is some kind of task killer. What is worse that not everybody contacts me by email bug gives bad rating even if my application is not working incorrectly. I made remedy: wrote it to documentation (http://android.hubalek.net), wrote it to application main screen and wrote it do application description but people either don't know what exactly task killers do and how they work or just don't read doc.I think that Google should prohibit all task killers as they are malicious and are breaking other apps.
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Aug 23, 2010
I notice there are a number of apps for dealing with turning off apps that are running in the background and using memory
1. Which is the best task killer app out there?
2. How much memory should you generally as a rule of thumb keep available at anytime?
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Oct 28, 2010
I wanted to ask everyone what their experience is with task killers, because alot of people say their battery lasts longer with one but others say it does not make a difference.Can everyone post what task killer they use, and what difference it makes on their phone, or state that you do not use one, and why.
I used Advanced Task Killer Pro and when people were saying they were not needed, I uninstalled it, after 2 weeks I have noticed that my battery does not last as long as it did when I had the task killer installed, so I will be re-installing it.
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Oct 7, 2010
The so called "task killers" are sort of pain in my *** as users keep using it w/o understanding it, so I decided to check installed apps to find out if TK is installed and if so, warn the user about the potential consequences. Anyone got by any chance list of such apps (or packages) to share?
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Nov 7, 2009
Im wondering if everyone is using the Hero with ATK. I was using the app. until I realized I was not receiving emails. When I called Sprint they said I should remove the app and let the OS control the apps. Since I removed the app., I am getting all my email notifications. With out ATK. My phone is extremely lagy or bugy. It's not a major problem but I do notice the difference in the phone. I guess my question is " Should we be using ATK or not?" I would like to hear everyones thoughts on this. Im just trying to get the best use out of the phone.
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Jun 6, 2010
What is the best task killer to download?
I downloaded one called "Advanced Task Killer Free" - and it has tabs for like services, apps, system, etc... but I don't know which ones I shouldn't end.
My main concern is the extreme lag on my phone! It's so laggy... I just bought this june 1st and am thinking of returning it and getting the evo because I know that phone is a beast. I hate texting on this because it takes so long to get into the texting screen.
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Feb 25, 2010
I took of Advanced Task Killer when I put Fresh and Gumbo on since some have said that they don't play nice. I sometimes mess up and don't close out the app by hitting the back button. My phone starts to warm up and the battery starts draining. How do I see what apps are running so I can close them out so that I don't kill my battery? Can I put Advanced Task Killer back on?
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Oct 27, 2009
I have had my phone sleeping correctly for three days. Today I installed task killer, and it hasnt slept since. I tried to uninstall it, but no luck. I reset the phone and only installed handcent and its normal again. I also noticed my battery was lasting very well untill i installed task killer....shortly after installing..the battery was dropping quickly.
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Jan 2, 2010
I have my GPS locations turned off. I use advanced task killer to kill all running apps... then I check my phone, and it Sprint Navigation is on every single time....
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Oct 22, 2009
I think this is something we need a post covering. So many people are using task managers, which is likely un-necessary for the most part, and quite a few folks don't know what they can and cannot safely kill. All of the task managers I have tried include an ignore list so I figured I'd post what I have ignored in TasKiller, along with what I know about each item, and hopefully others will do that same and we can some up, at the very least as set of stock applications to ignore and maybe some help keeping other application running correctly. So here is my ignore list and what I know about each item (hopefully the ones I don't know about can be explained by others):
Stock:
Touch Input - Reasons obvious by the name
HtcIQAgent - Not sure what it does exactly but it should be left running
IQRD - Not sure
OMADM - Not sure
HTC Sense - The Sense UI - Killing it only causes it to reload and auto-killing it would loop your phone into oblivion
Clock - The clock backend - Killing it will cause your alarms not to go off
Calendar - The calendar backend - Killing it will stop calendar syncing and cause you not to receive reminders for calendar events
com.coremobility.app.vnotes - The voicemail backend - Killing it will cause you not to get visual voicemail notification and stop you from being able to listen to voicemails through the voicemail app.
Mail - The Mail backend - Killing it will cause the phone to stop syncing mail from any account other the google account you associated your phone with.
Gmail - The google backend for your phone's associated account - Killing this will stop you from syncing with your phone's associated account.
Third Party:
Astrid - The Astrid widget's sync backend - Killing this will stop Astrid from syncing.
Handcent SMS - Killing this will stop the Handcent SMS process and cause Handcent to load again when you get a message which degrades performance.
That's all I have on ignore list for TasKiller. I don't use the widget to kill everything anymore because it's not necessary and I tend to dump any app that doesn't properly manager memory and sleep and either do without or find a replacement. The ignore list is still nice because TasKiller won't let you kill an ignored app and lets you hide them as well. I hope more folks will share their ignore lists.
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Nov 3, 2009
I installed Handcent and disabled the SMS notifications, but in my task killer, the Messages is shown as working every once in a while, even though I never open it. Is there a way to completely remove the SMS application?
So I keep reading about the battery issues and the SMS not letting the phone sleep. I am just wondering how do you know if the phone is sleeping?
I lightly use my phone from about 6am and it lasts about 12 hours. By 6pm I have to plug it in.
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