EVO 4G : AutoKiller Memory Optimizer Killing HTC Sense
Nov 4, 2010
Running a rooted Evo (obviously) with OMJ 3.8. I have Sense running with Itching Thumb(which I love).
For about a month or so I have been using Autokiller Memory Optimizer which has improved me phone's performance (I determined this in a sisde by side comparison with my wife's unrooted evo. I know this is not a perfect test, but as OMJ uses a stock kernel it's close enough, IMHO)
Since I have been running Itching Thumb I have notices when switching apps Sense will occasionally get killed. I can only assume this is because of Autokiller.
When I looked on Autokiller Sense had an oom of 8, which with a memory use of 9mb and change makes it a candidate for being killed, I would assume. The oom for sense seems to bounce around a bit, it's usually 8, but I have seen 4 and 1 also.
This is a mild annoyance, waiting for Sense to restart, but if I could avoid it I'd like to. I've thought of a few possible fixes I would prefer not to do, which include:
Uninstalling Itching Thumb
Lowering the free memory threshhold on Autokiller
Temporarily lowering Sense's oom in Autokiller
What can I do to keep Sense from being killed? (I considered a bulletproof vest, but they didn't have one that fit) Can I lower it's oom? Any ideas? Or should I just suck it up and accept it and a byproduct of my tinkering?
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Feb 22, 2010
Ok after seeing the somewhat heated threads on here about whether or not to use a task killer to help mange memory and improve performance on the droid Eris I decided to run my own little unscientific test.
So just a bit of background, Ive been in enterprise wide IT for 10 years now. I will say that my O/S knowledge is not exactly current but that may not be a bad thing for this. I will also state that what I report is just my own experience and I have not repeated is several times to validate anything. YMMV!
About four weeks ago my Eris was running like poo. Slow, lag city and getting almost unusable. I had been using Advanced Task killer quite liberally during this time trying to keep the device usable. Short term it seemed to help restore some of the response issues but it didnt take long before I was trying reboots to get the phone working well. Here is a list of apps I had installed at the time.
Pandora
Weather Bug
Shop Savy
Google Sky
Daily Dilbert
Bloom County
WiFi Analyzer
Silent Mode Toggle
Taskiller
SpareParts
battery Widget
Robot Guitarist
keyring reward
tv.com
NPR News
Movies
Shazam
Zedge
ip-calc
aldiko
JogTracker
UnitConverter
Backgrounds
photoshop mobile
plink art
Weather channel
Radar now
Last.fm
Plus a few others that had been removed.
That quite a few apps but not overboard in my book, and most seem to be pretty stable.
Anyway I decided to wipe the device and start over again, but with the debate raging I decided that I was not going to run any sort of task killer or other memory manager. And that I was going to run for at least four weeks and report the results. I will say I trimmed some of the redundant apps (weather bug replaced all the other weather apps nicely)
I have to say that over all I dont feel like I need a memory manager or task killer. It would be hard to say that the phone is a zippy as it was right after I wiped it, but as of now its no where near as laggy as it was before I wiped it. I feel my battery life is just fine, but I am not one who thinks that battery is an issue anyway. If there is 10% left when my head hits the pillow at night then I am a happy camper.
So this does beg the question what does using a memory manager really do for your experience on the phone? I cant for sure state that using a task killer caused my lag issues before, but it was not helping at the time either. My apps and usage have not changed very much other then not using a task killer and as of now my phone is running pretty darn well.
For me I am pretty firmly in the do-not-need-a-task-killer-camp for now. And before you flame or argue with me I challenge you to try it both ways for a while (with a clean wipe). I am sure that others have had a different experiences and maybe using one works for them.
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Oct 22, 2012
I know i should have made tons of Backups before trying out something like "Provision Optimizer [Root] but i didn't do any Backups. After i clicked the "one click optimize" button, i rebooted my phone to apply the settings. The Motorola Boot Logo showed up, but instead of loading/showing the animated Motorola Boot Logo(the second one) the Screen turned black. After waiting one or two more minutes I tried to touch the Screen and the Motoluxe responds as if the Screen was turned on. Even the sounds and vibrations match the Touch screen unlocking.
Technical Details:
Motorola Motoluxe
Android 2.3.7
Fw: IRM-1670-0-4073-A02_BFM_service.sbf (stock)
Rooted
Usb Debugging enabled
How can I backup either my Data to flash the Motoluxe once again (Titanium Backup installed) or undo the changes, that the "Provision Optimizer" did to my system?
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Aug 19, 2010
Simple thread with a simple question(s). What are the recommended settings for autokiller for the Incredible? Does it even really help if you're using froyo and have access to all 512mb of ram?
Edit: Well, I just found an answer to the second question. I didn't realize the "free" memory is immediately used up by cache. More free memory = larger cache. So, that said, I would still like to know what the "recommended settings" would be.
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Jul 7, 2010
Does someone know if the app autokiller does work without rooting the phone? On the internet site the developer says I need to root the phone. But I am wondering if it's useful also for people with a non rooted phone.
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Apr 6, 2010
What should the settings be to get the max performance.
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Feb 26, 2010
I've seen this app in the market for rooted phones. is this useful does it help in anyway with speed and batter performance if so what settings do you set at cause it looked confusing to me
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Jul 31, 2010
I've been fiddling around with my Hero for a while and tried a few different things including Autokiller which is an alright program but didn't provide much noticeable difference to the performance of my phone. I've just been fiddling around with overclocking aswell. The reason I decided to try overclocking was because I bought Snesoid and the games were really laggy even with the sound disabled, even on more basic games like super Mario. I've tried overclocking to roughly 650, the 690 then 710 with not a lot of difference when using snesoid and with the phone in general tbh. I'm wondering if it's something else causing the phone to be laggy even after trying numerous things, could it be sense?
I've got systempanel lite aswell and it mainly shows these as the active apps:
HTC Sense 23.2M
Messages - 8.2M
People - 10.6M
Swype 11.6M
And these as Inactive (Cached) Apps:
My Uploads - 7.9M
Settings - 8.1M
Anyone got any ideas why it's still a bit laggy and very laggy with snesoid, I'm running VillainRom12 aswell btw.
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Nov 7, 2010
So its pretty simple. Do you use autokiller? Does it seem to boost the performance of your phone? Chime in, good, bad, or indifferent.
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Feb 12, 2010
I just installed autokiller on my htc hero and set the presets to optimum. Setting the phone to optimum really flies now. However, i wanted to know if their is any draw backs on setting it to optimum instead of aggressive or moderate.
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Oct 20, 2010
Now I have Juice Defender on my phone. It's running with the battery lasting 2x as much. Now, I have finally rooted my phone and now I use setCPU and AutoKiller on Optimized. Is it worth it to have Juice Defender?
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How does one use Autokiller correctly? I want to make sure I'm optimizing my system to get even more battery than I am. Typically I pull over 24 hours on a charge. Want to see if I can get over two days. Thanks in advance Nitsuj17 and Saps =P
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(FYI, I am running Cyanogen Tazz 1.0, and besided not having the trackball light up, I am loving it. I just want to get optimized battery life)
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Hey quick question, for those of you rooted using autokiller, what are your opinions on the preset levels? I'm running stock 2.1 rooted for now and just want some extra opinions and explanations on the issue. Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
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Jul 7, 2010
There are some apps like the NASCAR one that I will never need. Is it a problem to kill apps that are pre-installed on the EVO using ATK or one of the file/task manager apps? Any apps I should not kill for stability reasons?
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Today is wednesday and so far the only time i used my camera was when i quickly opened the bar code scanner app but i didn't even scan a code i just opened it for maybe 3 seconds and today it says the camera used 47% of my battery.
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