Samsung Behold 2 : Backup APP / Restore Them After Flashing?
Apr 30, 2010
First of all, salute to BH_MAN for offering so much joy to BHII users.
My questions is how to back up my apps. Everytime I flash a new ROM, all my installed apps and settings are wiped away. If there a way to back them up and restore them after flashing?
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Feb 9, 2010
Is anyone using Nandroid to perform backups on there phone? When I boot into recovery mode, I don't have a selection for nandroid. I haven't installed the Galaxy install yet, do I need to do that first? I came accross this at the unlock page and was curious.
How To: Backup and Restore Your Android Phone | The Unlockr
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Oct 19, 2010
Now that I'm fully rooted I'd like to experiment with a few different ROMs. My issue is: I'm a heavy user of Folder Organizer (great product). After I rooted initially, I flashed the Fresh 3.3 ROM after backing up using Titanium, Astro File Mgr, AND MyBackup Pro (I don't mess around). After I was done with the flash, I went to restore with Titanium. It didn't restore all of my apps, and actually not much of my data (for example, it didn't restore SMS for some reason). No worries: I went to my Astro backup, it got a few more of my apps, no data.
Finally, I turned to MyBackup Pro, fortunately it restored my SMS data. To wrap it up, I wound up having to restore a few apps from AppBrain, and I had to reset all the folders in Folder Organizer (a real pain). Is there a can't miss backup/restore process when flashing ROMs with Folder Organizer? I don't mind having to restore a few missed apps, but it takes hours to get the folders back. I'm also paranoid about the missind SMS data, but I think I have that covered.
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Jun 1, 2010
Installed Flash Rec after trying to root my hero (following the guide stickied to the top of this forum) and its not giving me the button/menu item to flash it. My options are to Download Recovery Image (Grayed out) or Restore Backup Image which once clicked gives information 'Backup Complete'. How do I proceed?
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Sep 30, 2010
When i click on batch, then run to backup my apps it jumps back to the Backup/Restore screen with all the apps, nothing gets backed up. I have backed up before with Titanium and it worked. I reinstalled Busybox, didn't help. If i uninstall and reinstall will i lose all the things i did like freeze apps etc ? When i try to update through the marketplace it says installation error, package file was not signed correctly.
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Apr 30, 2010
I was having a bunch of problems the other day and I had to re-ODIN the phone like.. 4 times and now its just randomly rebooting itself.. Should I ODIN AGAIN? I'm using the 1.6 factory.. and I'm afraid I'm going to have to keep just re loading it over and over..
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Jul 19, 2010
I have never flashed a phone before. I followed instructions for ODIN. I installed the ADB drivers as indicated. (I had them installed on my windows 7 laptop previously for use with PDA net.) I shut down my phone then enter recovery mode. I then plug my phone into the computer and it never shows up as connected. I have tried this on my new IBM Thinkpad R500 (windows 7 32 bit) and on an older IBM laptop running Windows XP. I have used these same computers and phone connection before when I added MP3's to the phone.
When I let the phone boot up normally, both computers then recognize it and I can transfer files and such. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the ADB drivers multiple times, when the phone boots up normally I can use PDANet just fine so I doubt it is the connection. Is there something special I need to change in the phone settings before I shut it down and enter recovery mode? It seems like the phone isn't loading something as it boots into recovery mode. That it loads when I let it boot normally.
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Jul 30, 2010
I encountered "zero memory" issue if I flash custom ROM over another with "onepackage" and factory reset doesn't help. Now I found a fix of this issue, and this should be done if you want to flash custom ROM over another.
Download and flash BH-MAN Warheads ROM http://www.4shared.com/file/nFe93F45/BH_MAN_WarHeads.html
Make sure you put in the components correctly. After md5 check has completed, you can flash and take a little break. Once you're in the standby screen on the phone, you can turn it off and reset the Odin and select the ROM and .ops file along with the ROM.
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May 19, 2010
what would happen if i flashed the galaxy kernel on my behold 2? or any other kernel for that matter... i am sort of new to this but i know alot of things too. so is this possible?
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Feb 15, 2010
I decided to split this off to a new thread, and hope some coders will join in and start compiling a kernel. We could then merge this with the galaxy asop effort.
Here's a bit more technical information.
Galaxy
The galaxy flash files are just yaffs images and a zimage (and of course AMSS) all tarred up. The tar format needs to be oldgnu for odin to accept it.
There's no protection at all. Thats because the glaxy is released completly security unlocked (simlocks are different, not the same thing). You can flash any image you like.
AMSS - arm ELF binary for baseband
kernel - zimage
system - standard yaffs image
recovery - standard recovery format
tar - oldgnu style standard tar file
The Galaxy also has a mtd device driver which means you can read/write its partitions with dd.
/dev/mtd
Behold 2
The behold has the same image format, yaffs, zimage and AMSS. See below for specific differences per image:
AMSS - arm ELF binary for baseband
The behold 2 also contains a partitions file. This is most likely for the AMSS, and allows the layout of the baseband to change. I'm not sure if the galaxy supports the same, but probably does.
Its safe to say you should NOT try to flash an AMSS from galaxy to the behold or vice versa.
Since the radios have the same functionality, and we don't know how to recompile and AMSS, you should never flash any new AMSS with a custom rom. Only flash AMSS with official updates.
> kernel - zimage
Just like the Galaxy this is a standard zimage. There's nothing special about it and you can modify it however you want. BUT in order for it to flash the tar file needs a special header (see tar below)
Since we can change the kernel, upgrades to newer OS versions is now possible.
> System - standard yaffs image
It appears the system image format on the behold2 is DIFFERENT to that on the galaxy. If you flash a galaxy system file onto the behold 2 you will most likely end up with a brick.
I suspect the behold 2 file has the flash address embedded inside it. Flashing the galaxy system file writes to a bad address killing the bootloader. When i say BRICK i really mean BRICK. No life in the phone at all, it wont even charge. so DONT DO IT!
In order to write a custom system to the behold 2, we will need to untar or unyaffs the modified system from the sdcard on first boot. This can easily be accomodated in the init.rc of you're modified zimage.
> Recovery - standard recovery format (protected?)
The recovery image format seems to be the same - standard android format with a ramdisk, kernel etc. However flashing it using odin doesnt work. There is some sort of protection which is preventing the image being flashed. I havnt looked thoroughly at this and someone really should. I suspect either it is signed (unlikely since the other images dont seem to be protected), or there is a write address embedded in the file, like the system file.
It would be nice to be able to flash a custom recovery, or even boot from a ramdisk, but I think this wont be simple.
> tar - oldgnu style standard tar file (with header)
Both the galaxy and behold2 have a header at the top of tar. The galaxy will flash regardless of if this header is intact or not. The behold 2 however MUST have this header intact for it to flash anything.
It seems this header contains the size, and write address of the zimage. Its possible the addresses of other images like the recovery are embedded in this too. We should look more closely at this header, especially between firmware versions to see what changes. In the mean time to replace the zimage, just hexedit your new image over the existing 'kernel' file in the tar. Remember you need to keep the size the same, so pad with zero's or just leave the remainder of the old kernel in the extra space.
Progress?
The sources that samsung provided are missing patches. This means you can't compile the behold kernel simply.
Also because the partitions are different, and the memory layout is different (compare msm/board-init files) a standard galaxy kernel will not boot.
Making the changes to get it to boot are not that dificult. It would be nice if someone who actually has a behold 2 and linux knowledge could have a look at this. It takes far to long for me to do this remotly, and frankly I just dont have that much time.
All you need to do is:
- compile the galaxy kernel (test your environment)
- replace board-init in the galaxy source with that from behold2 sources
- turn on linux console
Now boot and check if the galaxy kernel is able to see device's for each partition on the behold. If not you'll need to copy the disk/flash driver from the behold 2 sources.
Once you are able to get that far, you can merge the changes into the i7500 asop project and add a kernel switch for the behold 2. Now all galaxy 2.x progress will be directly transferable to the behold2.
You will need to make a change to the init.rc to mount the drives and unyaffs the modified system.img the first time it boots. Again a simple change.
Forgot to mention HOW to flash a kernel.
1) Take the stock behold 2 PDA tar file.
2) Use jzip (must be jzip on windows, winzip etc wont work) to remove ALL files except the kernel.
3) Extract the kernel file for reference (leave it in the tar too)
3) Download HexWorkshop or similar Hex utility.
4) Use Hex Workshop compare function to compare 'kernel' and the tar. It will highlight the kernel in the tar file
5) Open new kernel in Hexworkshop. Select all and Copy
6) Highlight the same number of bytes in the tar file and paste over the original kernel
7) Flash with Odin (JUST this tar) as PDA, and of course selecting the behold ops file.
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May 15, 2010
Now "Flashing Take5 For Complete Morons". Here's what I wrote after succeeding with Take5:You do NOT need root access to flash Take5 or 1.6 stock. Odin does it all. So here's some more detail about how I finally got it done (thanks to everyone helping):
1. Download http://www.junefabrics.com/bin2/SamsungUsbBehold.zip and unzip the files, then run the "Setup.exe" file. Your phone does NOT need to be connected to the computer to install this driver.
2. Download Odin at http://www.4shared.com/file/nFe93F45/BH_MAN_WarHeads.html. This file includes other files but you need ONLY the "Odin Multi Downloader v4.03.exe" file (there may be another download location for it). So unzip this folder and put Odin somewhere on your PC so it's handy. Don't need to open it yet, though.
3. Download Take5 from http://www.4shared.com/file/h6HvytYX/BH_MAN_Take5.html. Unzip this folder that contains two files: "Behold2_partition.ops" and "BH_MAN_Take5.tar.md5".
4. Open "Odin Multi Downloader v4.03.exe" and then:
a. Click the "OPS" button and select the "Behold2_partition.ops" file
b. Click the "PDA" button and select the "BH_MAN_Take5.tar.md5" file (you may get a message saying "Image Image Type" but you can ignore it)
5. While your phone is still not connected to the computer, turn the phone off. Then you need to get into DOWNLOAD MODE. To do this, hold down (in order, and you KEEP HOLDING THEM) Volume Down, Center D-Pad Button (the round one), and then End Call. Remember: KEEP HOLDING THEM ALL DOWN THE ENTIRE TIME. The phone will turn on, and should say that it's in Download Mode (psz clarified this). It will take several seconds. Don't let go of any of the three buttons until you see "download mode".
6. Now that the phone is in download mode, connect it to the computer's USB port. When I did this, Windows asked me if I wanted to install drivers, so I said yes and let it do it's thing.
7. In the Message box in the bottom-left corner of Odin, it will say something about your phone being connected. Now you click the Start button in Odin. Wait maybe a few minutes and your phone will reboot and turn on with Take5 running.
8. Unplug phone from USB and enjoy.
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Oct 4, 2010
So I've had my Behold 2 for about 2 months now, and I've tried several different ROMs, but all of them have this same problem, apps always disappear after a reboot. Things such as google maps, navigation, places, springpad, dropbox, astrid tasks, handcent sms, even the android market sometimes is completely gone, not even in the apps list from settings. It only shows a white box with the green android, and when opened, it just says app not installed. If I reboot/pull battery some of the apps mix n' match for which ones to appear and not. After one reboot, dropbox will be gone, while on another springpad will be gone but dropbox is back.
So it's never the same. I'm currently using BHMAN's latest take5 ROM, and I've tried 1.6 no twiz, microhaxo's OTA 1.6 tweaked as well as bearsfan's all having similar results. Now when I first flashed a custom ROM, I used the unlockr's guide, and followed the rooting instructions there. Could it be that the rooted ROMs are interfering somehow with the already rooted phone? Is it possible to unroot the phone and flash back to stock 1.5 or 1.6? Then I would try flashing to one the latest ROMs.
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Sep 19, 2010
I think I deleted my android market when I click the icon message comes up and says app not installed on this phone. Do I need to do a reset or can I download it some where noticed it after I updated some of my apps.
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Sep 10, 2010
I'm considering trying one of the ROMs available here for my behold 2.Will I lose all the apps and other user data I have?If so, is there a way to save the apps/information and then restore it after the flash ?I have a few paid apps in particular that I'd prefer not to lose.
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Jul 29, 2010
Say if your phone breaks or gets lost/stolen and you can a replacement is there a way to restore the new phone to have the same app/settings as the old one or do you have to manually reinstall and reconfigure everything?
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Nov 16, 2010
My first Android phone, so please forgive my ignorance if any. Rooted Vibrant, flashed from stock ROM to Obsidian V4. I did a "backup current ROM" before "install ROM from SD card" by using Rom Manager. The process went smooth, but after booting into the new ROM, I found that all my contacts were gone. Sync with google account won't help because most of the phone numbers are not tied with my gmail contacts.
Now, I want to know if there is any way to extract/restore my contacts without restoring to the saved backup. Actually, I tried restore but the phone did not boot after restore. Do I have to use Odin to boot my phone to solve this issue? And even if I succeed, will I see all my contacts?
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Mar 1, 2010
I'm flash my Bell Mobility phone with Firmware 1.6, and after No Sleep issue and another small bug, I want to return to Original Firmware 1.5. But I'm not taken a backup of mine before flash it. Anyone here make a backup of Bell Firmware 1.5 ?
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Sep 1, 2010
The micro usb port on my phone has gotten loose over the last few days, and so T-mo is sending me out a replacement phone. I would like to completely backup my phone (ideally to my dropbox folder) so I can easily restore all of my apps and settings on the new vibrant when it comes. I already have Astro, and have backed up my apps to my SD card. But I would like something more comprehensive, say the way Blackberry Desktop software can do a complete back up from one phone and restore it all to a different phone. What backup apps do you use?
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Mar 5, 2010
Backup specific apps and restore to anther ROM?
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Mar 7, 2010
I Installed Smoked Glass V5.0 from V4.5. I ended up doing it twice, and to make a long story short I lost my files in AK Notebook.
Here's my question:
1. Should I backup my current configuration
2. Then "Restore" my backup prior to upgrade
3. Grab my files (hoping they will be there) toss them on my mac
4. Then just "Restore" back to where I am now?
Need those files by tomorrow, any assistance is much appreciated. It's not that it's an emergency without them, but I will have to do some legwork to gather that info again.
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Mar 13, 2010
After countless calls to t-mobile I have *FINALLY* received my update, which means now that I've got the updated kernel I'm ready to upgrade to BH_MAN's rom... But of course if something goes wrong I'd hate to ODIN back to a buggy system. So my question is this: can anyone instruct me on the process of creating a new ODIN file on a system with the updates? Because unless the process is way over my head I'd really love to give it a shot.
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Apr 3, 2010
I'm trying to run a batch operation (TB Free). Specifically all apps+User data. It keep s freezing on me anywhere from 2-7%. I kill it with taskiller, and try again, but no luck yet. I've left it for a good 20 minutes to see if its still working and not seeing it, but no luck yet.
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Nov 8, 2010
I recently updated my Mini Pro to Android 2.1, I followed the steps on the sonyericssonsupport YouTube video. I did a Backup of all my stuff on the phone, when I'd updated my phone and turned it on it asked me to setup the phone again with the Language, Time & Date etc and now when I try to restore my settings it says "Could Not Restore" when it is almost done.
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Nov 24, 2010
I don't know why I feel like it might be a conflict with apps organizer? I have the pay version, just got it, but my app list is empty. I can't back anything up or freeze anything.
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Jul 27, 2012
with the latest versions of Titanium Backup, I can't seem to figure out how to do batch backup and restore of apps and data anymore.
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Apr 20, 2010
I was trying to root my samsng behold 2 earlier today using the command codes on theunlockr.com. I thought everything was going well as I went all the way to the last step where it rebooted my behold 2. Problem is, the phone kinda just turned off after doing the reboot command and didn't turn back on by itself (I gave it like 10 minutes). I eventually then just turned on the phone manually and noticed that everything was super laggy. Even when I used taskkiller to kill every task minus GDE, it said I only had 38MB ram available. I rebooted my phone a few times and it was laggy everytime so I decided to do a hard reset. The problem is that when I attempted the hard-reset, it will now get stuck on the samsung screen when trying to load up (stayed there for over 30 minutes). I can still enter the phone if I just start it up regularly without trying to hard-reset, but it will continue to be VERY laggy.
Is there anything I can do to restore this phone back to its original state? I was reading about using ODIN to flash it or something, but for some reason my computer doesn't detect my phone when I go into Download mode on startup (it does however detect the usb drivers on my phone once the phone officially startsup into its homepage).
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Nov 7, 2010
I have 73 visual voicemails on my Evo right now. If I backup the stock voicemail program with Titanium Backup will I be able to restore them all after wiping all data and/or installing a different ROM (as well as Sprint VVM)? If not, is there another way to backup the downloaded voicemails on the phone, i.e. not emailing them to myself?
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Jul 5, 2010
jsut getting kinda nervous here, installed drivers for my phone, has stock 1.5, and followed the directions in the 1.6 stock rom download. im flashing with odin atm and its at like 30 min, and my phone is still downloading, is this normal?
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Oct 31, 2010
I think that says it all. Is there an app that will backup my entire captivate and restore it exactly the way it was from the backup?
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May 16, 2010
I recently rooted 2.1update1, I backed up twice with sprecovey...2.1 unrooted, 2.1 rooted. Then downloaded Ti backup and did a full backup of apps. I bought ROM manager and downloaded p3droid 1ghz kernal and flashed it. I know it probably worked but I ended up restoring to the back up that ROM manager made just before flashing p3droid kernal. How can I restore my settings and apps after I flash a ROM? Is there a way to add p3driod to over clock without overiding my apps?Didn't want to get in too deep without finding out first. I read for weeks before I rooted, Im ready for the quick answer. Im considering CM or Nexbeast...not sure. I really don't mind the rooted droid OS, but id like to use wireless tether and over clock a little. If I flash to a new rom can I redownload TI backup and have it restore all my apps from my SD? I also have sprecovery backups on my PC, but that wont help because they were created on stock 2.1 rooted.
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