Samsung Behold 2 :: Flashing ROMs - Applications Always Disappear After Reboot
Oct 4, 2010
So I've had my Behold 2 for about 2 months now, and I've tried several different ROMs, but all of them have this same problem, apps always disappear after a reboot. Things such as google maps, navigation, places, springpad, dropbox, astrid tasks, handcent sms, even the android market sometimes is completely gone, not even in the apps list from settings. It only shows a white box with the green android, and when opened, it just says app not installed. If I reboot/pull battery some of the apps mix n' match for which ones to appear and not. After one reboot, dropbox will be gone, while on another springpad will be gone but dropbox is back.
So it's never the same. I'm currently using BHMAN's latest take5 ROM, and I've tried 1.6 no twiz, microhaxo's OTA 1.6 tweaked as well as bearsfan's all having similar results. Now when I first flashed a custom ROM, I used the unlockr's guide, and followed the rooting instructions there. Could it be that the rooted ROMs are interfering somehow with the already rooted phone? Is it possible to unroot the phone and flash back to stock 1.5 or 1.6? Then I would try flashing to one the latest ROMs.
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Aug 6, 2010
Do I have to install market apps 1 by 1 every time I flash a ROM? I rooted to Sapphire 0.7.0 a couple of days ago and had to install market apps 1 by 1. Is there a way t back just those apps up and somehow restore them after flashing a ROM?
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May 2, 2010
Not a major issue here, just sometimes when I reboot, when my phone starts back up again my Facebook app is gone and I have to reinstall it. Anyone know what's causing this? I'm using WarHeads but this also has happened on BH_MAN's other ROMs.
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Apr 9, 2012
I moved those apps to my SD Card.
And when I reboot it, the shortcuts disappear.
Is there a way to not make them disappear? (Don't want moving them back to phone memory.)
I have Xperia Active.
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Apr 30, 2010
I was having a bunch of problems the other day and I had to re-ODIN the phone like.. 4 times and now its just randomly rebooting itself.. Should I ODIN AGAIN? I'm using the 1.6 factory.. and I'm afraid I'm going to have to keep just re loading it over and over..
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Jul 19, 2010
I have never flashed a phone before. I followed instructions for ODIN. I installed the ADB drivers as indicated. (I had them installed on my windows 7 laptop previously for use with PDA net.) I shut down my phone then enter recovery mode. I then plug my phone into the computer and it never shows up as connected. I have tried this on my new IBM Thinkpad R500 (windows 7 32 bit) and on an older IBM laptop running Windows XP. I have used these same computers and phone connection before when I added MP3's to the phone.
When I let the phone boot up normally, both computers then recognize it and I can transfer files and such. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the ADB drivers multiple times, when the phone boots up normally I can use PDANet just fine so I doubt it is the connection. Is there something special I need to change in the phone settings before I shut it down and enter recovery mode? It seems like the phone isn't loading something as it boots into recovery mode. That it loads when I let it boot normally.
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Jul 30, 2010
I encountered "zero memory" issue if I flash custom ROM over another with "onepackage" and factory reset doesn't help. Now I found a fix of this issue, and this should be done if you want to flash custom ROM over another.
Download and flash BH-MAN Warheads ROM http://www.4shared.com/file/nFe93F45/BH_MAN_WarHeads.html
Make sure you put in the components correctly. After md5 check has completed, you can flash and take a little break. Once you're in the standby screen on the phone, you can turn it off and reset the Odin and select the ROM and .ops file along with the ROM.
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May 19, 2010
what would happen if i flashed the galaxy kernel on my behold 2? or any other kernel for that matter... i am sort of new to this but i know alot of things too. so is this possible?
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Feb 15, 2010
I decided to split this off to a new thread, and hope some coders will join in and start compiling a kernel. We could then merge this with the galaxy asop effort.
Here's a bit more technical information.
Galaxy
The galaxy flash files are just yaffs images and a zimage (and of course AMSS) all tarred up. The tar format needs to be oldgnu for odin to accept it.
There's no protection at all. Thats because the glaxy is released completly security unlocked (simlocks are different, not the same thing). You can flash any image you like.
AMSS - arm ELF binary for baseband
kernel - zimage
system - standard yaffs image
recovery - standard recovery format
tar - oldgnu style standard tar file
The Galaxy also has a mtd device driver which means you can read/write its partitions with dd.
/dev/mtd
Behold 2
The behold has the same image format, yaffs, zimage and AMSS. See below for specific differences per image:
AMSS - arm ELF binary for baseband
The behold 2 also contains a partitions file. This is most likely for the AMSS, and allows the layout of the baseband to change. I'm not sure if the galaxy supports the same, but probably does.
Its safe to say you should NOT try to flash an AMSS from galaxy to the behold or vice versa.
Since the radios have the same functionality, and we don't know how to recompile and AMSS, you should never flash any new AMSS with a custom rom. Only flash AMSS with official updates.
> kernel - zimage
Just like the Galaxy this is a standard zimage. There's nothing special about it and you can modify it however you want. BUT in order for it to flash the tar file needs a special header (see tar below)
Since we can change the kernel, upgrades to newer OS versions is now possible.
> System - standard yaffs image
It appears the system image format on the behold2 is DIFFERENT to that on the galaxy. If you flash a galaxy system file onto the behold 2 you will most likely end up with a brick.
I suspect the behold 2 file has the flash address embedded inside it. Flashing the galaxy system file writes to a bad address killing the bootloader. When i say BRICK i really mean BRICK. No life in the phone at all, it wont even charge. so DONT DO IT!
In order to write a custom system to the behold 2, we will need to untar or unyaffs the modified system from the sdcard on first boot. This can easily be accomodated in the init.rc of you're modified zimage.
> Recovery - standard recovery format (protected?)
The recovery image format seems to be the same - standard android format with a ramdisk, kernel etc. However flashing it using odin doesnt work. There is some sort of protection which is preventing the image being flashed. I havnt looked thoroughly at this and someone really should. I suspect either it is signed (unlikely since the other images dont seem to be protected), or there is a write address embedded in the file, like the system file.
It would be nice to be able to flash a custom recovery, or even boot from a ramdisk, but I think this wont be simple.
> tar - oldgnu style standard tar file (with header)
Both the galaxy and behold2 have a header at the top of tar. The galaxy will flash regardless of if this header is intact or not. The behold 2 however MUST have this header intact for it to flash anything.
It seems this header contains the size, and write address of the zimage. Its possible the addresses of other images like the recovery are embedded in this too. We should look more closely at this header, especially between firmware versions to see what changes. In the mean time to replace the zimage, just hexedit your new image over the existing 'kernel' file in the tar. Remember you need to keep the size the same, so pad with zero's or just leave the remainder of the old kernel in the extra space.
Progress?
The sources that samsung provided are missing patches. This means you can't compile the behold kernel simply.
Also because the partitions are different, and the memory layout is different (compare msm/board-init files) a standard galaxy kernel will not boot.
Making the changes to get it to boot are not that dificult. It would be nice if someone who actually has a behold 2 and linux knowledge could have a look at this. It takes far to long for me to do this remotly, and frankly I just dont have that much time.
All you need to do is:
- compile the galaxy kernel (test your environment)
- replace board-init in the galaxy source with that from behold2 sources
- turn on linux console
Now boot and check if the galaxy kernel is able to see device's for each partition on the behold. If not you'll need to copy the disk/flash driver from the behold 2 sources.
Once you are able to get that far, you can merge the changes into the i7500 asop project and add a kernel switch for the behold 2. Now all galaxy 2.x progress will be directly transferable to the behold2.
You will need to make a change to the init.rc to mount the drives and unyaffs the modified system.img the first time it boots. Again a simple change.
Forgot to mention HOW to flash a kernel.
1) Take the stock behold 2 PDA tar file.
2) Use jzip (must be jzip on windows, winzip etc wont work) to remove ALL files except the kernel.
3) Extract the kernel file for reference (leave it in the tar too)
3) Download HexWorkshop or similar Hex utility.
4) Use Hex Workshop compare function to compare 'kernel' and the tar. It will highlight the kernel in the tar file
5) Open new kernel in Hexworkshop. Select all and Copy
6) Highlight the same number of bytes in the tar file and paste over the original kernel
7) Flash with Odin (JUST this tar) as PDA, and of course selecting the behold ops file.
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Apr 30, 2010
First of all, salute to BH_MAN for offering so much joy to BHII users.
My questions is how to back up my apps. Everytime I flash a new ROM, all my installed apps and settings are wiped away. If there a way to back them up and restore them after flashing?
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May 15, 2010
Can someone post a link to an HTC_IME.apk that works with BH_Man's roms? I hate Swype, and every HTC_IME.apk file I find force closes when I select it under Input Method. Help?
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Apr 7, 2010
I have a rooted behold 2 [stock] and when I push libwebcore.so into system/lib , the phone hangs after I reboot. I have tried it with a couple of different libwebcore.so files [one from android 1.5 and 2.1] with the same outcome. It sounds like the system is checking for corrupt files or so when it boots and doesn't go any further if its numbers don't match up. Any ideas ?
The reason I'm trying to do this is that i want to be able to read arabic properly on webpages. I have already installed the arabic font [thanks to BH_Man] and all the characters are displayed. However, the browser renders the order of the letters backward [from left to right instead of the opposite].
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May 15, 2010
Now "Flashing Take5 For Complete Morons". Here's what I wrote after succeeding with Take5:You do NOT need root access to flash Take5 or 1.6 stock. Odin does it all. So here's some more detail about how I finally got it done (thanks to everyone helping):
1. Download http://www.junefabrics.com/bin2/SamsungUsbBehold.zip and unzip the files, then run the "Setup.exe" file. Your phone does NOT need to be connected to the computer to install this driver.
2. Download Odin at http://www.4shared.com/file/nFe93F45/BH_MAN_WarHeads.html. This file includes other files but you need ONLY the "Odin Multi Downloader v4.03.exe" file (there may be another download location for it). So unzip this folder and put Odin somewhere on your PC so it's handy. Don't need to open it yet, though.
3. Download Take5 from http://www.4shared.com/file/h6HvytYX/BH_MAN_Take5.html. Unzip this folder that contains two files: "Behold2_partition.ops" and "BH_MAN_Take5.tar.md5".
4. Open "Odin Multi Downloader v4.03.exe" and then:
a. Click the "OPS" button and select the "Behold2_partition.ops" file
b. Click the "PDA" button and select the "BH_MAN_Take5.tar.md5" file (you may get a message saying "Image Image Type" but you can ignore it)
5. While your phone is still not connected to the computer, turn the phone off. Then you need to get into DOWNLOAD MODE. To do this, hold down (in order, and you KEEP HOLDING THEM) Volume Down, Center D-Pad Button (the round one), and then End Call. Remember: KEEP HOLDING THEM ALL DOWN THE ENTIRE TIME. The phone will turn on, and should say that it's in Download Mode (psz clarified this). It will take several seconds. Don't let go of any of the three buttons until you see "download mode".
6. Now that the phone is in download mode, connect it to the computer's USB port. When I did this, Windows asked me if I wanted to install drivers, so I said yes and let it do it's thing.
7. In the Message box in the bottom-left corner of Odin, it will say something about your phone being connected. Now you click the Start button in Odin. Wait maybe a few minutes and your phone will reboot and turn on with Take5 running.
8. Unplug phone from USB and enjoy.
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Mar 30, 2010
Im confused about bh man and all these different revisions and roms and roots and such. What im looking for is a rom that will run a bit faster but leave the camera app alone. i personally like twiz but i'd like to try the phone without it. the problem is that i dont know if the camera app build in to the camera is twiz or not. i dont want to lose all the camera options. is there a rom that removes twiz but leaves the camera and its app alone? the camera the app for it and how it ran were the big selling points for me.
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Apr 8, 2010
I just updated from R5 to R7 and I'm still having issues with the GPS. Specifically I'm using Google Maps/Navigate and they can't seem to find my location. The first day I flashed R5, it took a few minutes, but Navigate eventually locked on and started working. I just let it run for 45 minutes and it couldn't locate. Has anyone else has any trouble or success with GPS in the 1.6 ROMs?
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Dec 13, 2009
i found this rom on the internet for the galaxy and i was wondering if i would be able to use it on my b2.
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Mar 26, 2010
I have compiled a list of the Roms and Mods that are available.
Special Thanks to BH_MAN, Nu11u5, =KLRS=ZERO, bleufox99 for most of this info.
PLEASE don't ask questions about them in this thread...Use appropriate link below!
Number 1 RULE when Changing Rom's....
1. Fully Charge Before doing an ODIN....
2. Let It Fully Die and Power Off & Charge Full while Off..
3. Doing the above will Show major Improvements!
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Dec 9, 2009
I have little doubt that the battery problems would be solved by bumping out of cupcake. I actually like Touchwiz, but it seems to be causing a ton of problems. Once we get 2.0 from Samsung, I don't think we can rely on it to fix the little things. It's time to bump it up to stock ourselves. I'm no ROM cooker, but I'm willing to try. Now that we have persistent root, what next? How do we start making ROMs for this thing?
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May 9, 2010
I have a couple of ideas for theming but have no idea on how to actually go about making them for the phone.
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Feb 1, 2013
I just installed CyanogenMod 10 20130110-NIGHTLY to my Motorola Defy+ and I am experiencing this problem:
3 of 4 dock icons disappear after rebooting the phone. It doesn't happen always, just in approximately 50% cases.
Now, it happened after closing and app and returing to launchscreen, plus one widget was gone too It's becoming really annoying, plus I'm having serious issues with connecting to wifi. I guess I'll just start using again Gingerbread that actually works, instead of this piece of... unfinished, not working ...thing
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May 4, 2010
1) If your phone is waking up repeatedly upon pressing lock, and you don't want to restart: HOLD LOCK & PRESS THE ROUND MIDDLE BUTTON!
2) Home++ Menu Restarting on each press, MANAGE APPLICATIONS+FORCEKILL. If you are feeling lazy and don't want to go into the Manage Apps Menu, simply bring up and 'return button' the menu 5 times, it'll lock up, and kill it from there.
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Apr 30, 2010
I am currently running BH2 1.6 no twiz. I was thinking on trying the galazy 1.6 but on the BH2 1.6 no twiz thread. It says that flash boot and phone only once, why? I want to go back to 1.5. should I only flash PDA? Why BH_MAN says only flash boot, phone once?
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Mar 18, 2010
Here is a brief much more complete guide to creating your own Odin images for distributing custom ROMs or making backups. Thanks to kam197, BH_MAN, chadmd23, SoulCreator, and all the other community members.
Requirements:
A Samsung Behold 2 to backup/edit/test ROMs on
Root via try3/asroot2, persistent su, or modified kernel
Working ADB connection
SD Card with ~300MB free
Cygwin - if you are working in Windows
Basic knowledge of a command line
Making the ROM Dump: The Behold 2 has 14 partitions in its flash memory, but only a few of these are useful to modify. You will want to focus on different partitions depending on what you want to do. After you make a ROM dump you will need to package it using the instructions in the following section before you can flash it. Backup your personal data? You may want to backup your data while trying out a different ROM. It is simple to do. Start an ADB shell session and obtain root access. Run the following command to dump the UserData partition: Code:
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Aug 16, 2010
I am looking to see if anyone (BH_MAN... ) has Alpha Recovery from the last BH_MAN ROMS dumped into an odin ready image. I am trying to get A2SD to work on the OTA, and I would like to be able to partition the SD card directly from the phone, which Alpha Recovery does...
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Mar 30, 2010
I have only had my phone for a few days and i'm starting to have some problems with downloading apps. At first I had no problems I downloaded 8 or 9 of them and they installed fine. Then I was not able to download anymore. Each one I tried to download said "download failed and did not install. When I looked at my status bar it showed 10 or 12 apps that did not download. So I did a factory reset and cleared everything out and started again. The same thing happens I get 5 or 6 and then the rest give my error saying not downloaded and not installed. So again I did a factory reset and tried again and came across the same prob. I got a few and then no more. I do not have a data plan yet. So I'm just using the wifi in my house. The ones that did not download i left them over night thinking they might get done by morning but no luck.
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Jan 2, 2010
I finally got my fone fixed and i deleted diner dash2 and telenav and amazonmp3 immediatly after i rooted the behold 2 , but now i would like to know how to run apps from my sd card ? i figured out how to get them there but. Now what? i cant install terminal emulator either. i want to do it this way so i do not use up the space on the fone.For some reason i think it will start going slow again if i dont. any advice on what your setups are? what have you safely removed? is it ok to remove MyFavs? how about the cube? is there anything todo to speed it up a lil? or make it so it doesnt slow down at all?
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Feb 15, 2010
Is there a way to get all the paid apps free like the way people jailbreak an iphone? Just got a Samsung behold 2 and I searched and couldn't find anything.
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Jul 5, 2010
jsut getting kinda nervous here, installed drivers for my phone, has stock 1.5, and followed the directions in the 1.6 stock rom download. im flashing with odin atm and its at like 30 min, and my phone is still downloading, is this normal?
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Jan 21, 2013
so i just find a new way to reboot to stock recovery on samsung galaxy ace plus GT-S7500 without flashing another custom recoveru like cwm or something like that
many people say that we cant access the stock recovery on galaxy ace plus because it have some bugs or something else.. now i found the way how to do that
just follow the simple guide how to do that :
1. reboot it using volume + and volume - ~> home button ~> power button
2. click and hold both volume button then the home button then the power button..
3. if the phone gets turned on so u need to keep hold that button until the recovery showed up (when it showed up and its get turned off again so u need to hold all the button again until it get rebooted to recovery)
4.if u get rebooted all time its not a big problem again .. all u need is just hold all that button until the phone gets turned on and release the power off button and hold it again until u boot it on recovery mode.. and done u booted up on recovery mode (im not responsible if ur phone gets bootloop or something else)
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Jul 8, 2010
I have root access, have clockwork mod. i did a nandroid backup as well. now what is the next step? i downloaded rom manager and titanium backup(paid version) i thought i read somewhere about someone sayin that titanium has to be on the SD card or something for backing up the apps maybe same thing with rom manager? a little confused at this point im just a little bit lost here when it comes to flashing roms. i think i wanna flash capt jagers 1.6 rom but im not sure what else i have to do.
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