Motorola Droid :: Clear Performance Difference - Bekit 1200LV Vs P3 1200LV With BB V1
May 18, 2010
Someone else had posted some findings between two different kernels and battery power, I can't find the thread - it's late though. Anyhow - the Bekit kernel was recommended as being the ONLY type to use with BB V1, upon initial release. Battery sucked, we all know it. Then I tried SetCPU, and a ton of different configurations - still sucked. I have JuiceDefender and some like it, others don't - I happen to like it and always have. The one thing I noticed initially upon the Bekit/V1 release was that the JuiceDefender widget: (I grabbed this off google, it's the one on the left) was showing a constant 1.15x whereas my battery multiplier previously was a constant 1.95x. This widget simply confirmed that my battery life was sucking bad. Went to the P3 1200LV and my widget made it to 2.15x and I noticed big time. Today I got 13 hours of light/moderate useage (internet, calls, text, email - NO wifi or GPS) and 13 hours got me down to 25%. With the Bekit I was getting roughly 8 hours or so. Dropping 10% an hour on sleep. I also want to add that I tried Chevy's 1200LV and it rebooted my system randomly. The temp on Bekit and P3 are both good though.......
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Sep 17, 2010
New to Android and just looked at http://developer.android.com/reference/android/util/Log.html
My question is regarding everything except debug. How do these Log entries get cleared such as Error so that they don't consume space? Also, Is there a way that the logfile can be queried so that it can be sent to a central web service or something for quality purposes etc.?
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Apr 6, 2010
Cyanogen 5.0.5.6 with bekit 1ghz running at 40 degrees. Is this a bad combination? I'm constantly at 40 degrees. If not there, usually upper 30s. I'm hearing people are often in low 20s with their ROMs. What's the deal? I don't even play games that much, nor do I browse intense websites. Would you suggest a different kernel?
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May 2, 2010
NexBeast V1.1 Release. This ROM is based off of Pete's Bugless Beast V1.1. He put a lot of hard work into it, so if you enjoy this, or his work, please donate to him! You can find the link to his donate and the original BBV1 thread at the following:
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-droid/85855-rom-bugless-beast-v1-1-a.html
Other developers worthy of your donations/praise are:
-Manup456 for creating NexTheme
-Bekit for the overclock kernels used here
-arctu for HelixLauncher(s) 1 and 2
-Ander Webbs for ADW Launcher
-Cyanogen and Koush for setting a high standard & ROM manager
*And everybody else that helped to make this possible!
ROM Link - Clockwork and SPRecovery Compatible
NexBeastV11.zip
Installation Instructions
-Rename to update.zip if using SPR, otherwise just install .zip with Clockwork. It is always good policy to do a complete wipe of data, cache, system, and boot. Don't say I didn't warn you
Features
-All of the speed, scripts, and overall goodness of Bugless Beast V1.1 (see above link for details)
-Completely Themed with Manup's DroTheme
-Includes new font set (removable)
-Includes Themed HTC_IME Keyboard (credit to jonasl & gIMpSTa)
-Themed MotoTorch and Ringer Widgets (thanks btdownloads7)
-Latest Wired & Wifi Tethering Apps
-SpareParts app with options by Pete
-Themed ADW and 3D Launchers
-New Superuser 2.1 app and binary (credit to ChainsDD)
-Themed new Facebook app w/ Inbox
-Lowered Ringer Delay from 3s to 300ms
-Battery percentage in notification bar (hard coded)
-NexThemed Live Wallpaper (credit to Pete)
-Blazing fast w/ tons of free memory!
OPTIONAL Kernels: (credit to Bekit) - Installation Video Instructions in next post!
-600Mhz LV 5X *Already Included*
-800Mhz LV 7X
-1Ghz LV 7X
-1.1Ghz LV 7X
-1.1Ghz SV 7X
-1.2Ghz LV 7X
-1.2Ghz IV 7X
-1.3Ghz LV 7X
-1.3Ghz IV 7X
P3Droid kernels will also work great - Get them here. ADW Update (minor) There's a newer version available in the market now, I've themed it. Get it here: org.adw.launcher.apk. Then use this next script down here to remove the old ADW
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Sep 2, 2009
So if you have ever used Cupcake and upgraded to Hero ROMs, you will obviously notice differences in performance. While you most probably won't be able to make the build go as fast as cupcake, this guide will help you squeeze all the juice you can out of the build, mostly by deleting useless resource-hogging apps. Please note I am not responsible for any damages to your device. Now lets remove some pretty useless apps. Obviously if you use any of these, do not remove them.
1) HTC Sync. If you don't use it, delete it. It is really a resource hog. Please not that before starting any of these command. Please not that you only need to type in adb remount once before you type in all these codes. Note: Please note that the * after PCSII* is in fact supposed to be there, and is not a typo!
[Code]
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Feb 20, 2010
Motorola CLIQ Over-the-Air Update
[Retail Partner Sales - T-Mobile Employees and Authorized Dealers]
February 19 Update
The over-the-air update for the Motorola CLIQ has been delayed to the week of February 22. An updated article will be available once a date has been determined.
On February 18, Motorola will begin sending over-the-air (OTA) software updates to Motorola CLIQ customers. The software update will improve device performance and resolve several known issues.
Improved Performance:
Improved battery life
Improved software performance and stability
Improved widget response
Decreased Force Close error messages
New Manage SIM Card application
Support of .WMA and .WAV media files
Removal of the imeem mobile application
Known Issues Resolved:
Accessories & Bluetooth
Error: 'Unable to pair' or 'Unable to connect to device'
Call functions
Can activate other functions while listening to visual voicemail
Call not ended by pressing the End key
Speakerphone turns on unexpectedly when answer incoming call
Plays ringtone or vibrates while on an active call
Unable to answer incoming call using �Slide to answer� feature
Accidentally opens Dialer or makes outbound while holding device
Device hardware (battery, keys, power, screen)
Battery indicator may not display accurate battery power
Call not eded by pressing the End key
Touch screen issues
Cannot answer incoming call using the Slide to answer feature
Incorrect keys registered using on-screen keyboard
Touch display appears to have �dead spots� that are unresponsive
Accidentally selects item when trying to flick through screens or menus
Messaging
Wrong message deleted
Phone may reset when turning Wi-Fi off in area with no Wi-Fi coverage
Customers can manually download the OTA on demand by going to Settings > About Phone > System Updates. Customers do not need to wait for a notification message to download.
Action Steps
Be aware of the fixes and enhancements included in the Motorola CLIQ update.
If customers are experiencing any Known Issue that will be resolved by the software update:
Do not file a handset exchange
Advise customers that the issue will be resolved by a software update on February 18.
Important Rebate Changes
[Retail Partner Sales - T-Mobile Employees and Authorized Dealers]
Customers eligible for rebates as part of new activations or upgrades must be advised they will receive their rebates in the form of a prepaid Visa card.
When customers take advantage of our new Early Upgrade or Early Upgrade Plus options, they are not eligible for upgrade rebate cards. These new upgrade options allow customers to take advantage of upgrades sooner and provide an instant discount, instead of having to wait for rebate cards.
To be eligible for an upgrade rebate card, customers must meet upgrade eligibility requirements.
Current, 1-year contracts: 11 or more active months since last discounted handset purchase.
Current, 2-year contracts: 22 or more active months since last discounted handset purchase.
Rebates on eligible purchases require contract extensions and a $9.99 or higher Data/Messaging feature.
Valid only on FlexPay plans with 1 or 2-year contracts.
Not valid for Even More Plus plans.
Active Months: The number of months in which the account has been in good standing and during which service has not been suspended.
Action Steps
Inform customers that Early Upgrade and Early Upgrade Plus are not eligible for upgrade rebate cards.
Advise customers eligible for rebates that they will receive their rebates in the form of a prepaid Visa card.
"With the purchase of your new handset, you can submit a rebate form to receive your rebate. The rebate will be in the form of a prepaid Visa card that can be used anywhere Visa is accepted. See the rebate form for additional details."
Trackball Replacement Program
[Retail Partner Sales - T-Mobile Employees and Authorized Dealers]
On February 24, T-Mobile will launch a Trackball Replacement program for BlackBerry Pearl 8100/8120 and BlackBerry Curve 8320 customers that are having trackball issues. This program will be available in T-Mobile retail stores only at this time.
Action Step
Refer customers to a T-Mobile retail store after February 24 for further assistance if they come in to your location looking to complete a trackball replacement.
First Connect for Dealers
[Retail Partner Sales]
First Connect for Dealers is an exciting class designed to help on-board and prepare Retail Partners to successfully sell T-Mobile products and services and provide differentiated customer experiences. This four hour class is conducted via the T-Mobile Live Virtual Classroom and covers the following:
Welcome to T-Mobile
Who is T-Mobile?
PCC
Differentiated Handsets
Differentiated Rate Plans
Service Excellence / Selling Skills
Tools and Resources
Customer On-Boarding
The attached flyer contains dates and times for these calls as well as registration details. ADRs should educate their locations about these calls and encourage them to attend.
To successfully be able to attend the training sessions, Retail Partners should have the following:
Computers with high speed Internet connections
The ability to play and hear video segments on the computer using speakers or headset
The use of a fully charged mobile phone to hear the audio portion of the conference call
Printer access to print Participant Workbook.
Action Steps
Share the attached flyer with your locations and encourage them to attend one of the scheduled calls.
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Oct 3, 2010
Ive used Cm6 and had some homescreen lag issues so i tried liquid frozen yogurt 1.6 and i love it. i ran the slayher kernel and it seemed to be doing just fine. it is snappy and battery life is better than CM6. I also tried simply stunning v4.8. I really like SS a lottt but with the chevy kernel my battery life was absolutly terrible. I don't know why that was so i switched back to Liquid froyo 1.6 and my battery life is a lot better now. Does anyone know about UD extreme 8? ive heard good things but i just wanted to know a little bit more about it. So basically my question is what do you guys think the best ROM and kernels are for performance and battery.
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Apr 8, 2010
i read through most of the HS/CSMS threads and really didn't find the information i was looking for. Feature for feature both applications are pretty much even, chomp seems to have some features that handscent doesn't and vice versa, which leaves only a couple things left to compare, which is what my question is based on:In terms of looks, it is very subjective so i will just boil it down to clarity.Which UI is clearer, i.e has the higher resolution? Performance: Which one runs quicker or less sluggish?I'm also downloading the apps to see for myself but, its always great to have other user's feedback, i will post mine after i use them for about a day each, and after some users' replies
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Sep 3, 2010
It looks a lot like the HTC one. IF you have it, how well does it perform? LIVE Wallpaper - Android application on App Brain. If I get a Droid X, I want a similar live wallpaper that the Droid Incredible has.
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May 15, 2010
I am new to the forum, so I am not sure if anyone has posted on this previously, but I am having problems with my dorids performance. The system lags when I try to drag from window to window. There is also a lag when I try to open Handcent or even just my call log.
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Jul 24, 2010
Hey guys, can you do me a favor and go to running services and flick up and down a few times and tell me if you ever get any lag when scrolling all the way up and down? I do every time I go into it and I just don't know if it is normal or not. I see little hickups here and there when I am scrolling but it's always noticeable in the running services screen.( I have LP set to high memory)I am wondering if I have an app slowing things down for me. My battery life hasn't been good either (4-5 hours per charge) and it seems my free memory is low. After a fresh reboot it is 97 + 124 in 34 -- other 87 in 9.I love the phone and would never give it up, but would love it more if it was a bit smoother and more battery life (like lots of others are seeming to get).
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Sep 3, 2010
I just got my new laptop today. When I did the .sbf restore before I was on Windows Vista 32bit. I now am on Windows 7 32bit. Do I need to find new drivers or anything or everything going to work the same if I need to sbf?
I have a question about shutter lag. Is there a way to reduce the lag? I have been doing some of the suggested mods to the build.prop file and I am wondering if there is a mod we can do to reduce shutter lag when taking a pic.
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Nov 5, 2010
My X recently (within the last week) started having extremely poor battery performance under the same usage conditions as the previous week (K-9 syncs every 15 min, maybe 2 texts per hour, 2-3 emails per hour, maybe 5 total minutes of phone use). After 4 hours, the battery would be at 20-30%
To make matters worse, most functions were extremely slow to respond (contact loading, test message loading, recent calls, bookmarks, any scrolling was choppy, etc.) The delay when trying the most basic things (opening the browser, making a call) was getting unbearable.
I started backtracking the changes in the last week. Although I started tinkering with Google's App Inventor over three weeks ago, that's where I focused. I uninstalled all App Inventor programs, including the Eyes-Free Text to Speech engine. This engine was recommended by Google to do things like read text messages in the Apps you create.
Still no luck.
I decided to investigate the battery use a little more. In Battery Manager, I found that "Android System" was using about 70% of my battery. I was typically used to seeing things like "display" at the top.
I have an app called Android System Info. This showed my CPU usage pegged at 100% (even after a reboot). It never got lower than 99%. The biggest CPU hog was "Android System" at 75-80%, consistently.
This App has a tab to view the log, and I noticed several recurring error messages in the log. They were occurring at the rate of about 180 times per second! The error? "Invalid TTS Engine" Well, the TTS is controlled by the "Android System". The "Android System" was constantly trying to load the uninstalled TTS engine.
I went into "Settings...Voice input and output", and, although the Eyes Free TTS engine wasn't available, the default TTS was not set. I checked the box to have the native TTS as the default, and checked the box for "Always use my settings".
Everything immediately went back to normal. CPU usage is now around 10-20%, and "Display" is back at the top of my battery hogging functions.
Battery life is back to over 10 hours, and the delays are gone.
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Oct 20, 2010
I am wondering if there is actually an appreciable performance boost when overclocking the Droid CPU. Does it really improve performance, or is it more just so we can say "Hey lookee here! I OC'd mah Droid!"? Nothing wrong with the latter if thats the case, I am just wondering.
Specifically I am wondering about framerates in games. I have Angry Birds (for example) on both my Droid and my iPod Touch. It is smooth as silk on the Touch, but the framerate sucks balls on Droid. Wondering if OC'ing will do anything for that.
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Jun 23, 2010
What exactly does this mean? Better signal or something If so I will be ditching my incredible like a 20 dollar hoe
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Dec 31, 2009
UPDATED UPDATE: Root is no longer required! Re-released in .apk format! Get it here: UPDATE: now ported to 2.0.1 by jinx10000 at Alldroid. Available here: To all those adventurous souls out there, there is a new 2.1 ROM available at Alldroid that was built from a newer Nexus One build than Greek's. In this ROM, there is an updated music player. While the update is not very significant, it does change it a little bit. -There are no longer buttons for songs, albums, playlists, and artist. They are now tabs and always there. -If a song is playing, a "now playing" bar is always at the bottom of the screen -When you open an album, the album art is in the background of the song list. You can see in the following screenshots: Once you get to the song playing screen, though, it is the same as before. As for overall, the new 2.1 ROM is very good. Improved performance for sure. The gallery is very quick, browser, etc. GPS works, keyboard back light is improved. LED notifications still are quirky.
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Dec 10, 2009
I see some people in the forums bragging about how great their batteries are and i am jealous I took mine of the charger at 7:00 this morning and at 3:00 my phone was already down to 40 percent. My question for the users that also seem to have poor battery life is, once your phone reaches 40% does a reboot give you more battery life? Every time my phone reaches 40% a reboot brings mine back up to 60%. This happens every time so it is not a coincidence or a onetime thing. I am curios if the reporting is off because it is almost 5:00 and i just did a reboot and now I have 60% left. I can live with 40% usage from 7:00 to 5:00 but I can't live with 60% usage from 7:00 to 3:00
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Dec 7, 2009
I just got my Motorola Droid and installed my little accelerometer app right away. All it does is registering a SensorEventListener if the user clicks the start button. It also takes the current time in millis. Every time onSensorChanged() is called, a counter gets bumped. After the user presses the stop button, the listener is unregistered and the time taken again. Using the values from above, I get a samplerate of 9 samples/sec which is WAY too low for what I want to do. The delay of the listener is set to SENSOR_DELAY_FASTEST. The Listener is registered within the main activity and is executed on the main thread of the process (I guess).
The G1 we used before was getting samplerates from around 35 samples/ second, which is way better, but still bad. Any suggestions on why the SensorEventListener performs poorly? The system is Android 2.0. App is compiled using API-Level 5.
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Nov 7, 2010
So its pretty simple. Do you use autokiller? Does it seem to boost the performance of your phone? Chime in, good, bad, or indifferent.
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Nov 29, 2010
My DX came with Android 2.2 v2.3.15. I flashed my first ROM, the rubiX Blurry 1.5.2 and when I checked my settings it said I was on Android 2.2 v2.3.15. Yesterday I flashed this rubiX Blurry 1.6.3 ANDROID DOES EXCLUSIVE and now it says I'm on Android 2.2.1 v2.3.20. How is that possible, I never flashed the new SBF leak file? Is there a difference between 2.3.20 & 2.3.320? Or did he just edit the build.prop and rename the os and build.
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Aug 23, 2010
I've been trying to use Wireless Tether with my laptop and have noticed that it is extremely finicky. It usually works for a minute or two but then I can't load anything at all on my laptop. I'm not doing any heavy activity or anything, just browsing some websites, but it does this consistently. I have to toggle it off and on and reconnect my laptop before I can use the internet again. No error messages or anything, it just gets stuck at 0.0 kbps on my phone as if my computer isn't communicating with it anymore.
Does anyone have this problem or is this just a common limitation with ad hoc networks? Is there another solution out there? I'm using the leaked Froyo rom but noticed this with the official 2.1 rom too. Doesn't 2.2 come with built-in hotspot capabilities? I wouldn't mind using wired tethering either, but it looks like that won't happen until we can get a custom kernel?
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Mar 4, 2010
1) What is the difference between kernel and a ROM? How do I know what kernel I am on? I know I am running the SholesMod ROM, but I am considering changing to another ROM. I seem to have FC's quite often and am trying to fix that. If I want to change a ROM will I need to change the kernel to make sure they are compatible?
2) I have SP Recovery installed. Is this part of the kernel? Is this installed in a separate place from the kernel/ROM? I'd like to feel assured that if I am installing a new kernel/ROM and something goes wrong, I don't have to worry about my SP Recovery being affected. But should I?...............
3) Nandroid backup... does this include everything on the device? Kernel, ROM, AND Recovery Mode?
I'm a newbie to hacking the Droid, but back in my PSP days, I know that the Recovery mode was stored on the same drive as the system files, and if you make a misstep when flashing a new firmware, you could lose recovery access. I'm just wondering where the recovery is located in the phones file system, and if I should really be concerned when flashing ROMs/kernels. Also, is there any way I could redirect it to load recovery from the memory stick, if the default recovery cannot load, just as a failsafe? Or if I lose recovery, could I somehow flash a new recovery via USB?
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Feb 17, 2010
So i rooted and overclocked to 800.. and frankly, i dont really see a difference.
contacts/msg loads just as quick as stock. browser still has the same speed (somewhat choppy, not silkly like the iphone but still fast, im assuming it has to do w/ the way the developers coded the scrolling).
so am i missing something? went back to unrooted stock and i dont feel the phone being any slower..
so I'm just curious where you guys see the blazing difference
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Oct 14, 2010
So I have been doing messing around with my phone more and more and love it. I got some great advise before I started really messing with it and it was "back-ups are your friend" So as I read and do more I have noticed there are two different kind of system back ups. A android, which is created in recovery mode or a Current ROM back-up in ROM Manager.
My questions is which one is better, or what is the difference?
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Jul 26, 2010
I'm not sure if this is just me, but it's kind of strange. My web browsing goes 10X faster if I'm not tonnected to my Wifi at home. I have a wireless G setup, and the phone is connected to it with full signal strength. Is anyone else having a similar problem?
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Jun 25, 2010
I was just hoping for some guidelines when using SetCPU as far as profiles, performance and battery life? I know it varies by kernel and right now I am using Chevy's uLV 1Ghz kernel.
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Jun 13, 2010
I have ROM Manager installed on my rooted Droid. I am trying to figure out the difference between Clockworkmod and SPRecovery. I'm currently running Smoked Glass v.6.0, but would like to try some different ROMs. Also when I change ROMs do I have to rebuy all my apps? Any help given is greatly appreciated as I'm still a noob.
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Sep 11, 2010
looked around and couldnt find an answer. they seem the same to me.
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Apr 9, 2010
I was wondering the biggest difference between stock and root. I was rooted before update but don't know if wanna go through RSWD lite and everything like that. I know overclocking and WiFi tether but what else?
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Sep 23, 2010
I just wanted to know it there was any differences. Is it worth rolling back to 2.1 and downloading the official 2.2 that was released OTA?
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