Android :: Market Alternatives - Rooting / Flashing
Sep 25, 2010
I am one of many Android tablet owners who's devices came without Android Market pre-installed. I am shit with Android and cba going through the trouble of rooting / flashing and geting Google ID's and shit. Are there any alternatives to the Android Market? So far iv found: AppsLib - but that wont work cos it says my device is not compatible or something. SlideMe - is ok but i am looking for something better.
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May 6, 2009
I know that this list's objective is not to talk about the Market, but if I need a developer's POV. I just now discovered I can't even signup on the Market being from Brazil, so what other alternative I have to distribute my software? It's free / GPL software so I don't even care about payment method, I just want my software to be used and seen. Aside from publishing it on my blog page and tweeting about it, of course.
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Aug 27, 2010
I keep reading articles about how new competitors to the Android Market are popping up, but I've yet to hear about any specific ones, or what they are offering that would make me want to explore them. The only Other market I've heard of is the Mikandi market for adult/porn apps, but I'm not really interested in that (at least not on my phone). I was wondering whether we could collect recommendations for other Android application stores and download sites, and add a brief review of the sites including a recommendation on why we would or would not want to use them (such as unique recommended downloads not present in the Android Market). we have a similar thread, but that one is about the best apps not found in the Android Market: Best Apps You Won't Find In Market.
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Sep 6, 2010
It seems like the number of alternative markets is exploding recently. Every other week I seem to get another invitation. Even in Germany, which is one of the few countries where you can pay and receive payments, (at least?) three big alternative markets were opened within the last few months. While I can understand why there are so many alternatives, I'm a bit concerned about this trend. I'd prefer *not* having to upload my app to about two dozens of alternative stores with different registration requirements, payment options, and languages I only partially understand thanks to Google Translate. Sometimes I wonder why Google even bothered to start an own "centralized" Market if at the end of the day - developers need to upload their apps to more stores than ever existed for Palm and Windows Mobile (combined) - people in most countries can't pay for apps, and in even more countries can't receive money for their apps (not to mention the available payment possibilities aren't common in all of the supported countries.......
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Jul 22, 2010
Well I decided to have a play and rooted my phone using the unrevoked method. All quite painless.
I flashed a version of DeFrost (2.2) and had a play, but encountered a couple of problems.
So I flashed 2.3 when is became available.
Then I haf problems with battery drain. Since then there have been a number of new releases of DeFrost - pretty much every day.
So I decided to restore my Nandroid backup and stick with the stock ROM until things settle down a bit.
Having done this, I can no longer get into recovery. The phone hangs on the Pink Circle screen and I have to pull the battery.
So has restoring the Nandroid backup which was made using the ClockWorkMod Recovery destroyed the recovery flash, and is that what you would expect or has something bizarre happened to me.
Just curious as I assumed that once the Recovery was on there it would stay there.
It's no big deal as I'm sure it will be just as easy to go through the rooting process again.
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Sep 28, 2010
Last night I rooted my Evo (Android 2.1) using Unrevoked 3.21, then flashed the new Fresh ROM and radios. I encountered several "gotchas" that may help others doing the same thing.
1. I had to try the Unrevoked program four times before the root "took". The first three times I got the message "Unable to obtain root. This happens sometimes" message. I would actually like to know (at least at a high level) why it failed the first three times. I tried it on a Win XP laptop the first two times, then switched to a Windows Vista machine, then back to my XP machine when it finally worked.
2. After verifying that my rooted Android 2.1 was working ok, I decided to flash the new Fresh ROM. First, I did a Titanium backup of everything on the phone, that went fast (although the Titanium interface could be improved. You have to go into the menu and select Batch to do the actual backup). As a fail-safe, I tried to do a backup of apps + data using MyBackup Pro. Unfortunately, it kept hanging on the app backup, so I just did a data backup. I also did an Astro backup of the apps, and (of course) I also did a nandroid backup of the current ROM (thanks to the good advice on this forum).
3. I then did a factory reset and cache wipe of the phone, then went ahead and flashed the latest Fresh ROM and radios. Both went very smoothly, I checked the version of the ROM and baseband in the phone settings and they match. Unfortunately, restoring the apps and data did NOT go smoothly at all. First, I discovered that Titanium doesn't seem to work as advertised. It didn't back up all my apps (I have over 150, guess that's a lot, but still!). A good example was Folder Organizer. It didn't get backed up so I had to re-download it. Next, Titanium didn't restore any of my data, SMS, call logs, home screen settings, nada. Fortunately, the MyBackup Pro data backup had almost all of that stuff, so I was able to get most of it back. The Astro backup was pretty useless the app list is not sorted by name (it uses the "com" package name") so it's virtually impossible to find what you're looking for. Lesson learned: if you've heavily customized your home screens, maybe flashing ROM's is not for you. If there's a better way to restore apps and settings after flashing, let us know!
4. Finally (and I believe this is a known issue) the FriendStream widget and Facebook contact linking is not working with this ROM.
At least I'm rooted now. Wireless tether works, the ROM works as advertised (scrolling and transitions are noticeably smoother due to the frame rate mod). I haven't had a chance to test 4G, I've got it turned on and will test around town. If it doesn't work then I'll restore the nandroid backup and go back to stock.
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Dec 30, 2009
I'm a newbie at all this, and I've read a lot of posts here but they all say how to root or flash. Pardon my simple question, but I just wanted to know what the difference between rooting and flashing is and at what level (hardware/os etc.) do each of these take effect. Also, which method will directly affect what I see/feel from a user's perspective as opposed to underlying OS changes.
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Mar 15, 2010
So I've been reading around trying to figure out the whole ESE53 thing before I try it. The post on alldroid linked in the sticky says that it will wipe my phone and unroot it. A couple of questions arise from that. What exactly is wiped? And is the re-rooting process the same? Can I use DMupdater to root it again?
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Aug 24, 2010
I have no idea as to what the above terms mean. All I want is FroYo and all other updates without having to wait for the carrier (O2) to release. O2 are useless in releasing updates. And also I need to be able to use the phone with any sim. HTC Desire with O2 still on 2.1
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Sep 25, 2009
I've been a Galaxy owner since release day on O2 UK and have been following the forums here for a while. I've had all the usual problems (NPS being useless, etc) and found the forum to be invaluable, so thank you.
I wanted to update the firmware, but found there's almost too much information around. Lots of updated / contradictory information, and some of it requiring convoluted hacking of text files etc. I eventually took the plunge, and made notes as I went. Hopefully, this will be of help for other new users.
After reading, I decided there were two stages to this. First, back up the phone so if it all went west I could roll back. Second, get the firmware on it.
Booting in various modes:
With the phone off:
Fastboot mode - call + power
Recovery mode - vol-down + call + power (hold home + back to exit)
Download mode - vol-down + ok + power
To enable root and back up the phone: (update - this method appears to have been blocked as of firmware rev. II5, should still work for IH8 and earlier)
To enable root and back up the phone:
Get recovery image from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8SAFKOIN see [url]
Get recovery flasher from Android Rooting in 1-click (limited time only... until it gets patched)
Copy recovery.img and rectools.tar.gz files to /sdcard
(tar.gz must be the root of /sdcard)
copy the recovery flasher .apk to /sdcard and install it
Run recovery flasher
Choose "backup recovery image" just in case
Enter sdcard/recovery.img as the path
Choose "install custom image"
Boot into recovery mode
Run a nandroid backup
Enable root if desired
Reboot
To flash the firmware:
Get Odin + H7 firmware from MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service
Get H8 firmware from RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting and unizp it to give you a .tar file. Alternatively, you can use the latest I5 firmware here, there's links to it elsewhere on the forum - I'm using H8 as an example as this was the latest when I wrote this.
Edit the .tar file with 7-zip to remove cache.img (to remove CSC branding) - 7-zip handles .tar files in a vaguely sensible manner, unlike things like WinRAR. 7-zip can be had from 7-Zip
Boot phone in Download mode
Run Odin
Follow instructions here The Chronicles of Cjeni a.k.a. Dejan Cencelj: Flash ROM Samsung I7500 Galaxy for dummies - essentially you're adding your freshly modified .tar as a one-file update, along with the orion.ops file supplied with Odin. The web page is nice and clear.
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Aug 3, 2010
I have my Cliq rooted with pure handler 1.0 ROM or flashed and I like it. So my sister is considering root on her Cliq but she's scared about breaking her phone. So my question is, if I root her phone do I HAVE to flash a custom ROM? Cuz she likes motoblur and if I don't do I just do the regular rooting process and just not flash a ROM?
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Oct 23, 2010
I have read a ton of articles on this site, XDA, and other about doing a pre-official upgrade to Froyo on my captivate and then rooting it. This is officially the correct way to do it. The easiest way I found. And of course I am not responsible if you mess your phone up in the process.
Step One:
Download all the drivers you can find for the captivate. Install them without plugging the phone in, and then plug the phone in and let windows pick up any additional drivers. (Plug the phone in and let it find drivers, then mount it and let it find more if possible.)Driver Links: 64 bit Windows. Download Samsung Galaxy S USB Driver for Windows x64 Driver for Windows XP X64 / Windows Vista64 / Windows 7 x64 - Softpedia 32 bit Windows. Download Samsung Galaxy S USB Driver for Windows x86 Driver for Windows XP / Windows Vista / Windows 7 - Softpedia More Drivers.http://downloadcenter.samsung .com/ content/SW/201007/20100716004231953/SGH-i897_Captivate_USB_Drivers_5_02_0_2.zip **ALSO** Go ahead and download Samsung Kies. It will provide more drivers...4.0 inch SUPER AMOLED Display, Layar Reality Browser, Android 2.1 OS, 1GHz CPU Speed, 5 Megapixel AF Camera, Music Player - Samsung I9000 - Infotainment - mobile phones | SAMSUNG
STEP TWO:
Open Kies and plug your captivate in. Let it go through the loading and discovering the phone and all that song and dance. Also, check and see if your firmware can be updated. It is really easy to get the update through Kies. If there is any kind of updates, go ahead and do it. Even if your phone is already rooted, upgrading to 2.2 is going to delete everything you have anyways.
STEP THREE:
After everything has updates and your drivers are installed, (Drivers being most important here) It is time to flash your captivate to androind 2.2. There is a very simple program called ODIN that will do this all for you. to prepare for this you will need this version of ODIN Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! download from and of these sources. You will also need to put your phone in debugging mode and change the USB setting to ask on connection. Download ODIN, and open it. You should see some blank boxes on the screen and two buttons at the bottom that say Start and Master Clear. This next series is important so do exactly as the directions say.
1) Plug the USB cable into the computer WITHOUT the phone plugged into it.
2) Make sure you have opened ODIN
3) Hold down BOTH the up and down volume buttons at the some time (Do not push the power button).
4) Count to 5 slowly and plug your USB cable into the phone while holding the buttons down still.
5) Download mode will pop up on your phone, it will have a green android guy on there and say very clearly that it is in download mode. YOU HAVE TO BE IN THIS MODE FOR IT TO WORK.
6) After that, in ODIN, one of the blank boxes should have something in it along the lines of COMM 4 or 3 or just anything in one of those blank boxes. Hit start.
**This process should only take about 5 minutes to do, if you are sitting there for half an hour something is wrong, go back and redo these steps.**
7) Let the phone do its thing. It will reboot and once it does, you are good to go and upgraded to 2.2
STEP FOUR:
Now it is time to root your 2.2 device, which is the easiest part of this. There very simple program to DL that will root your phone and enable side loading. Very easy to use.
1) Make sure your phone is set to ask on connection under the USB settings and debugging is on.
2) Download the software..[APP]SuperOneClick v1.5.1 (Root, Unroot, Enable Non-Market App, Get UNLOCK code) - xda-developers scroll all the way to the bottom of the post and download the latest version.
It should be Superoneclickv1.5.1-Shortfuse.zip*you may have to register for XDA but its free and has really good forums.
3) After the download is complete, run the .exe and follow the instructions.
Off the top of my head there should be a tab at the top of the program that says "Universal" and "Captivate" obviously make sure you are on the captivate tab. If you have to click "get unlock code" first then do so. unless you are experienced, just do the standard root and not the shell root. After this you will have Android Froyo 2.2 on your captivate and also have it rooted.
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Jan 26, 2010
Can i upgrade fimeware to 2.1 after rooting and flashing to fresh 1.1
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Jun 29, 2013
I flashed + rooted (strangely in that order, which means I must have rooted my phone ages ago.. and then locked my bootloader after flashing..?)...
I do have Rom manager installed... but I don't quite recall how I ended up flashing the stock rom onto the phone..
Anyways, as I did seem to reset my phone, I upgraded all the apk packs and I'm pretty happy with the speed upgrade + ext2 internal space expansion.
As I now want to create a nandroid backup, so I can always come back to my current status, when I want a clean reinstall..!
My main question is that as I seem to have skipped creating a CWM recovery... if I do so now, will I loose all my data and go back to the basic stock rom?
The problem I'm facing right now is that I'm unable to boot into the recovery mode using either "adb reboot recovery" or the power on + vol buttons / menu button. (which means that I don't have the recovery mode installed.....)
So.... will I loose my current upgrades + phone settings (reset into factory mode), if I flash the recovery mode?
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Jan 7, 2010
I have a sprint hero and i'm thinking about rooting. If I root will I be able to access all the apps currently in the market that are unavailable to hero users because the hero runs 1.5? Also does anyone have any new info about the 2.1 release date?
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Aug 6, 2010
Do I have to install market apps 1 by 1 every time I flash a ROM? I rooted to Sapphire 0.7.0 a couple of days ago and had to install market apps 1 by 1. Is there a way t back just those apps up and somehow restore them after flashing a ROM?
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Sep 16, 2010
I rooted my HTC Incredible last week and installed the Virtuous ROM with froyo 2.2. I recently realized that after doing this there are a ton of apps missing from the android market. Even ones that I already have installed on my phone like Evernote and Google Sky Map. If I go to the downloads section of the market which should show the apps I have installed it shows none.
The verizon section of the market displays only three applications when I know there should be a whole lot more. What is going on? I cannot find any apps. When I search for something there is usually one or two apps that show up and are not even what I was looking for. Is this a widespread problem with the market or a side effect of rooting and upgrading to the virtuous ROM?
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Oct 3, 2010
"HTC Eris 1 Click Root App" for Erises on 2.1 is a free to try app which asks for a donation to a youth out reach program from "CTS."
I unrooted my Eris and used this app to reroot it and it worked fine with no glitches.
A nice alternative to other rooting methods for the Eris.
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Oct 16, 2010
New to android and EVO. Do I have to root my phone to install apps from Market or Appbrain are there just certain apps that require rooting?
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Nov 29, 2010
Greetings everyone, I rooted my moment today. After that i tired to load the market and I am getting an error msgs that says A sever error has occurred. Retry or cancel and return to the previous screen.
Any ideas? I have seen some posts on a google site saying this might be related to google checkout, however everything there is current.
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Feb 1, 2010
Has anyone noticed after rooting that the market seems slower? ..particularly when accessing menu>downloads (to check for updates). I ask because I finally got around to rooting friday and have noticed much slower performance in the market since then.
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Jun 30, 2010
I just rooted my phone yesterday using the method suggested above (xml dev or something like that).. and noticed that my weather never showed up on my home screen. then, after work, i tried to get into my Assistant Free/PageOnce app, also Market & FB.. but says network's not available..
Did i do something wrong? is tethering required after rooting to maintain network access? my texts and calls come through ok. i honestly don't remember if i received my daily agenda via e-mail or not today.
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Aug 24, 2009
1: How do I access payable apps in marketplace, offcourse by paying, but so far I can only see the free ones.?
2: What is rooting, and what is the advantages from what the Hero is able of now?
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Oct 15, 2010
I'm considering taking the plunge and going all-in with Google. My primary email has always been my hotmail addy, which I've had since. whenever hotmail started. Literally. I've always had my POP addy from my ISP, but it's been more of a secondary address. The changes over the last while to Windows Live services and so forth have made email slow and clunky, and my ISP has got rid of their email servers entirely and Windows Live supplies all their email services. So, a switch to Gmail is under heavy consideration, particularly since I spend more time with my phone now than on my computer. I've got a Google account (obviously) and use many of their services, and have a Gmail account, which I never use. Google's calendar services, among others are terrific, integration with Android is seamless, while using hotmail through Android is a bit of a headache. How do people find Gmail? Is it worth a pretty major change (all my shopping sites, forums, etc will need to be changed to the new email) for what I'm hoping will be easier email usage on the go? Talk me into / out of the switch people, I need your advice.
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May 14, 2010
However I'm not a big java fan, although I can live with that, I would like to know if there're reasonable alternatives for the android virtual machine. I've done a medium sized project using clojure, however from the reviews I read, it's very slow when running on android. How about scala ? I read that some people did experiments with it in android, is it "fast enough" ? How big is the learning curve ?
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Aug 16, 2010
Anyone know whats up with TubeDroid? I mean I know WHAT'S up, YouTube changed there protocals, blocking it but are they going to fix it? Other computer based YouTube capturing programs still seem to be working OK.
I went to the makers homepage, I don't seen see it listed on there list of apps anymore. I feel kinda ripped off, paid for this crap and now it doesn't work and no word of a fix.
Sprint's 3G sucks so much butt here, I have to download YouTube video's first in order to make them play smoothly. Any alternatives to TubeDroid?
I would like something that lets me pick the high quality videos etc like TubeDroid did.
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Nov 24, 2010
Google maps api is great for developing location based services for mobile phones. But for some reason the use of it is restricted for me in a special project.E.g. if your project is in conflict with the general terms and conditions of google it is not recommended to use google maps API.In my app (android, iOS) i want to display a location on a map by retrieving gps information. Overall the api should offer a similar scope of operation like google maps API.Which alternatives do you know? Maybe there are open source api's?
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Oct 6, 2010
Are there any swype alternatives out there, that are free? i have ran into a lot of paid apps, but wondering if there are any free ones i can get my hands on, marketplace or browser download doesn't matter to me.
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Sep 29, 2010
I really don't like the Gallery app. I'd prefer the photo gallery to be simpler and let me just flick through photos without any whizzy 3d effects. Is there a way to get the default Photos/Pictures app that some phones came with, or is there any good alternatives people would recommend?
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Sep 2, 2010
As we all know, the Facebook for Android app is amazing. Notifications work like they should, we can actually utilize the "Places" feature, the user interface is spectacular, and it puts the iPhone equivalent to shame. Right. So, until I can actually say that with a straight face, I'm going to need an adequate alternative - this is where you guys come in, what with all your experience and whatnot. Most of the ones I've seen are just links to either the mobile/touch site, or are worse than the stock app (which is really saying something). I've heard of Bloo, but I've also heard the developer stopped, you know, developing it, and instead handed it to the public - and I have no idea how that worked out. So, any suggestions would be great. I'd just like a working Facebook app that doesn't make me want to throw a perfectly innocent puppy through an incinerator.
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