HTC Incredible :: Stuck In HBoot - Radio Won't Update Either
Sep 2, 2010
I root my phone, installed Fourth Wave without a hiccup. I do my co-workers phone the same way and now he is stuck in HBoot. Radio won't update either. I removed the battery for 20min and tried, no luck. Goes right into HBoot. Anyway to get the phone back to normal?
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Sep 23, 2010
I upgraded my radio was when 2.05 was released (1.0 -> 2.05), so I'm not sure if risks are the same given that we now have S-OFF.
Previously (when I upgraded) there were bricks that would occur if the same radio was flashed twice. I cannot remember whether the method of radio upgrading was done via HBOOT or Recovery. If the risk is still there, can I upgrade from 2.05 to 2.15, or should I downgrade to 1.0 then upgrade?
As far as HBOOT goes, I have never upgraded my HBOOT, I'm either running on 0.77 or 0.79, but I want to play around with some of the newer roms. Regardless, is HBOOT 0.92 an official release, or is it a user contributed release?
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Aug 12, 2010
I see these components discussed all the time on xda-developers. I have a vague understanding of what they are and how they're related to each other, but it's not perfectly clear. For example, the radio seems to be a lot more than just the radio. I have a good understanding of the basic ideas as a Linux user and software developer.To kick things off, let me present my current understanding. I could be way off on some things:"Radio" - I'm not sure if this runs before the bootloader or after HBOOT is the bootloader, the first thing that runs when you boot up your phone. Like your regular Linux bootloader, it lets you boot off of different partitions.There are multiple partitions on the system, at least one for HBOOT (maybe? or is it in some kind of MBR type of area?), recovery, system and data. All of these partitions are in the system's "ROM" which is not really ROM it's actually NVRAM or flash or whatever. Hence, each of these areas can be independently flashed.Recovery is a partition you can boot into. It's originally meant to be a kind of "recovery" mode and so offers a base for hacking. This is typically re-flashed so as to follow further modifications. From the recovery image, you can also access the sdcard which is useful for fetching update.zip files etc. update.zip - these are updates that can be applied from a custom recovery image. It seems like these updates can contain more or less arbitrary code, but I'm not clear on how they get applied or where they get flashed to or applied to./system - gets mounted read-only (what control this?) unless you do some hacking Where does the kernel sit? Is there a different one in the recovery versus the regular image? which parts form a custom ROM like CyanogenMod? What is the NAND and what does it mean to unlock the NAND? What is an RUU? SPL? Where do the WiFi and 3G radio images sit? PC36IMG.zip? PRI?I've seen some of this explained elsewhere but I don't understand how they all fit together.
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Aug 2, 2010
So I downloaded the unroot file, installed it onto the SD card (formatted by the phone), and when I load Hboot it finds no update. It just brings up the normal menu (fastboot, clear storage, simlock, etc.).
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May 14, 2014
My phone got a fair bit of water in it and after drying out, it powers up to the HBOOT screen but vol up/down do not work nor does any other button. Curiously enough the phone seems to recognize if I insert the usb plug but my computer says failed to recognize device/load drivers.
This is what the screen says:
INCREDIBLEC XC SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.92.0000
MI CROP-0417
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.10.07.07
Jul 23 2010, 18:06:51
HBOOT or if USB in HBOOT USB PLUG
<VOL UP> TO to previous item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
FACTORY RESET
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Sep 17, 2010
I just converted to the dark side rooted the phone s-off but my radio is still 2.1.75 I believe. What are the benefits if any to updating to 2.9 version I see alot of people have? Sorry for the stupid question guys. Oh and one last thing if I use a custom ROM how do I run titanium backup after it reboots everything?Thanks again guys sorry for the dumb question
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Aug 23, 2010
I want to update my radio to 2.15 from 1.0. i put the pb31img zip on the root of my sd card, and did everything it said to do here: New Radio 2.15.00.07.28 for HTC Incredible from Adrynalyne but it doesn't actually ask me to update. it checks the file but then goes to the standard hboot menu. I'm running frankenrom 5 if it matters and I'm new to rooting and stuff so I'm probably making a simple mistake.
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Sep 27, 2010
i downloaded the newest radio update and i booted into clockworkmod and installed but when i went into about phone the radio version stayed the same..
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Aug 22, 2010
I was following the wiki for rooting and flashing CM6. It says in order to flash the new radio I need to have s-off set. If so is the best way to just use unrevoked forever? This is what I was following: Full Update Guide - HTC Incredible - CyanogenMod Wiki
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Aug 10, 2010
this is my first post here.just rooted a few days ago and decided today to try and flash a Froyo rom, was going to do skyraider. i read and followed the how-to for the radio update, unrooted, and placed the file on the root of my SD card. when i went to recovery when i attempt to run update.zip i get an error saying 'not found' 'authentication failed' or something very similer. searched around and didn't find much.currently running 2.1update1
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Jul 29, 2010
can someone explain why it's necessary to unroot my phone in order to update the radio? I would like to try skyraiders ROM but just don't feel comfortable unrooting my phone. will it be possible in the future to update the radio without unrooting?
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Aug 22, 2010
I don't know what im doing wrong but while trying to update my cousins radio last night, after going to recovery the update.zip does not show up. The phone is not rooted and I di follow the directions for those who did not root but after going to recovery the directions say to press power and the volume up button but it just takes me.to the first portion of that screen.
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Aug 13, 2010
Will updating the radio effect my ability to update my roaming capability on on Verizon calling *228?
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Aug 12, 2010
So I'm currently at stock after using PB31IMG to unroot and am now trying to update the radio to 2.05 so I can flash SkyRaider 2.2
Anytime I try and run the update in recovery I get the error message...
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command (this comes up before even trying to run the update)
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Aug 1, 2010
I get an error when I try to update the radio. "update radio ignoring attempt to do multiple firmware updates" I don't know what I did wrong. I put PB13IMG.ZIP on sd card, it installed. Then DINC_OTA and renamed to update applied that. REBOOTED checked settings and its still not updated.
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Aug 9, 2010
I'm running CyanogenMod6 Test8 right now, with the 1.X radio. if I update the radio to 2.X, and install the skyraider ROM, what happens if I just get so sick of sense that I go into rom manager and restore to my previous CyanogenMod6 Test8? Will the radio still be 2.X? Would I still be able to switch between ROMs as easily as I do now, only difference being my radio is updated?
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Jul 30, 2010
I want to update my radio so I can install the latest sky raider Rom.I remember reading that once you update the radio you will be stuck with it.My question is if VZW's OTA has a slightly different radio in it will I still be able to install that one.
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Jan 4, 2013
I'm trying to run TripNDroid ROM (check here), but currently that ROM on 4.2.1 doesn't support my HBOOT, 1.12.
I checked me CID, which is HTC_304, and I see it is compatible with HBOOT 1.39.
Now, I read somewhere that if I update to a more recent HBOOT I might not be able to flash some ROMs only compatible with older HBOOTs. So, should I update my HBOOT or not? If so, how?
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Aug 2, 2010
While tested, and working on ECLIPS3's test device, this is a risky flash. Flashing this is at your own risk. If data or property loss occurs, its you fault, not mine.
The s-off spl allows you to use fastboot, and can make recovery of a "softbricked" device much easier.
Flash this like any other flashable file through recovery.
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Nov 16, 2010
Is there anyone that can give me step by step instructions on how to use hboot to install files from the root directory on my sd card. Ex.
This is what I did: I downloaded Clockworkmod 2.5.0.5, renamed the Clockworkmod zip to PB31IMG.zip, and placed it on the root of my SD card. Power-off, and boot into HBOOT (pressing the down vol+power button).
Then I downloaded Superuser 2.3.6.1 and place it on the SD card, use Clockworkmod Recovery and choose "Install .zip from SD" option.
Restarted my phone, and there's Superuser."
I have tried going through hboot and never see these files once I have installed them on the SD card.
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Sep 2, 2010
I have read conflicting things, so I come to the experts. My phone is on hboot 0.77 - is this OK to install the OTA 2.2? I have read that 0.77 may send the phone into an endless boot loop if you install Froyo.
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Oct 3, 2010
In my attempt to install the MUIU Rom I am having trouble upgrading my Hboot to .92. Ive downloaded it from various links provided, put it in the root of my sd, rebooted into hboot, waited, saw it check the PB31IMG.zip.....then nothing. It doesn't prompt me to do anything....
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Aug 23, 2010
What does boot into hboot mean? Is it just powering off the phone then holding down the volume button and press power? If so then can someone explain to me when I download a called PB31IMG.zip and put it into my sdcard then boot my phone up it does not say anything about an update. For instance, I want to update my radio from 1.00.03.04.06 to 2.15.00.07.28.
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Aug 27, 2010
So, I downgraded to stock recovery to get the OTA2.2, I had problems doing so, but finally was able to get it to be stock recovery with s-off and running HBOOT .79, would I need .77 to get the OTA or no?
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Aug 16, 2010
When I reboot in recovery, it looks like my HBOOT version in .77. Someone in one of the threads mentioned that .77 and .79 were floating around as the safe options. How can I upgrade HBOOT versions, and with everything running fine, is there any benefit to upgrading? I'm running unrevoked forever, second wave rom, and newest radio leak if that matters.
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Sep 3, 2010
I had 2.1 rooted with S-OFF
I wasn't able to update to 2.2 via OTA so I found an update.zip
I attempted to load the update.zip but it failed
Using [VIDEO] HowTo UnRoot Incredible by downgrading I downgraded to stock 2.1 but for some stupid reason I also disabled unrevoked forever and went to S-ON
I then applied the May OTA update Getting your phone ready for the FroYo update.zip!
Following that I applied the 2.2 update.zip
Here are the versions I'm on:
HBOOT-0.92.0000
RADIO-2.15.00.07.28
Now I'm trying to apply unrevoked3 and it fails
I found 2.1 stock to 2.2 rooted (with links to files)
I tried to downgrade to stock again and I now get this error:
Main Version is older!
Update Fail!
Do you want to reboot the device?
From what I understand I'm unable to downgrade to stock due to having an updated HBOOT
I've found instructions on how to downgrade HBOOT How to revert back to an earlier version of HBOOT but it seems I need clockworkmod to do that
So my question is. Is there a way I can proceed from here or am I stuck waiting for an official root for 2.2?
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Sep 1, 2010
I attempted to install HBOOT 92 from Adrnalyne's website and failed. It would constantly boot into HBOOT. I did a nandroid restore and all is well. Anyone else have a problem installing the new HBOOT?
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May 3, 2010
Depends on the size and gauge of the wire of your headphones. Also depends on the position of the wires. FM radio is a little picky, but works fine- depending on the points mentioned. Old & wrong: The FM radio on the Inc must be the weakest radio in a phone, evah! Just tried it today and picks up half the channels my Ngage and N900 pick up well. A lot of channels barely come in, or are static filled. I thought Steely Dan said "FM has no static at all"? Makes the CDMA radio seem not that bad, in comparison I know- at LEAST it has a radio. Must be set to suppa powwa savva mode
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Sep 23, 2010
So, I flashed .92 hboot from adrynalynes website and it is stuck in some kind of weird hboot boot loop. When I try to reboot it just goes black and comes back to this screen. I can get to clockwork and do and nandroid backup, but I just wanted to know what potentially caused this so I can avoid this in the future.
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Jul 16, 2010
This mostly applies to folks who have flashed the leaked ota and want to go back to legit stock. There is generally a problem with that, because we cannot use the RUU due to the upgraded Hboot (no radio has nothing to do with it).
Through my travels, I found a way to do it.
This is not without its risks, and I take no responsibility for any broken phones, knocked up cats, or homeless hamsters caused from the havoc it may wreak.
It did work for me, quite well. I was able to flash to an old RUU without issue like nothing ever happened.
First, the link I used, and then the english version.
[HOW-TO] Downgrade HBOOT - HTCPedia.com forums
Need the RUU?
http://www.mediafire.com/?ld1gm3bbddcbwdw
Now, my instructions, which will hopefully simplify it. I take no credit for this by the way, credit is due to the original thread.
1. Download and unzip the files I have attached to this thread and put them somewhere that you can push them with adb.
2. You must used Unrevoked's latest tool to install clockwork.
3. Boot into clockwork recovery, go to partitions, and mount data.
4. Type this code...
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