General :: How To Connect Kernels And ROMs
Sep 18, 2012
I'm not understanding how kernels and ROMs connect.
[Hardware] <-- Unique to every phone
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[Kernel] <--- Tells the OS how to talk to the hardware
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[ROM] <--- Slightly confused. Is the OS in the Read only Memory, or has this term changed its "street" meaning?
I understand that most ROMs (e.g. CM7 and CM9) include both the kernel and the ROM, but can you flash these separately too?
I have a 1.5 year old thunderbolt that's rooted, and has CM7 which is based on gingerbread. I believe HTC has also released the kernel as open source, which is probably the reason I have CM7
Anyway, why I can't install newer versions of android onto the already working/open source kernel I'm already running. Is it accurate to view the kernel as all the phone's drivers, or just the CPU driver? If that statement is true, why can't I load ICS or Jelly Bean onto my already existing set of drivers? my brain around it enough to share with others!
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Jan 23, 2013
how to connect I believe you would call it remotely for the other person can control the other computer with there's a show the person how to build a kernel.
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Oct 18, 2010
Alright this thread is to talk about what kind of battery your getting with what kind of ROMS and KERNELS.
This shot is from Baked Snack 1.8 Kernel#6 with Low Rider theme with pretty little to medium use
Reason for this thread is to share what ROMS you've gotten best battery life from, cuz I'm trying to venture out and try some different ones with the best life.
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Aug 3, 2010
I just rooted and downloaded the ult droid froyo beta, and it runs fine, but can't change to any other rom's or flash any kernals. It just loops with the M then reboots back into normal phone. I have backed up this one and stock 2.1, but won't even let me get back to that.
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Sep 6, 2010
I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A LIST TO ALL FROYO ROMS, KERNELS, AND BASEBANDS THAT I WILL UPDATE REGULARLY!
**ONLY FOR MOTO DROID***
I WILL UPDATE THIS LIST AS SOON AS NEW ROMS OR KERNELS GET RELEASED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ON ANY OF THESE ROMS JUST ASK, I CAN HELP TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
SOME OF THESE ROMS ARE BASED OFF OLDER FROYO BUILDS AND SOME LATEST. THEY ARE LISTED IN NO SPECIFIC ORDER.
TRUST ME YOU WILL BE AMAZED HOW FAST I UPDATE IT.
***THESE ROMS ARE NO WAY CREATED BY ME. THESE ARE FROM THE EXCELLENT DEVS THAT BLESS THE ROOTED DROID COMMUNITY!***
UPDATES [ALL UPDATES ARE POSTED AT THE BOTTOM OF ROM SECTION]
Update 1 - Added Jamezelle's Sense 2.2 Rom
Update 2 - Added CVPCS kernels and Chevy No1's Simply Stunning v4.7 and MetickOnes's MetickMod FRG22D Rom
Update 3 - Added Insaneneiviesis Shadow Rom Final
Update 4 - Added CVPCS's Sapphire 1.1.1 **Thanks gwwjpd for pointing this out***
Update 5 - Added Benny879's Droid Evolution Rom
Update 6 - Added actngrezy's Project Elite Rom and ChevyCam's Steel Droid 1.92
ROMS BUILT FROM SOURCE
OFFICIAL OTA FRG22D [ROOTED-SUPER USER-BUSYBOX-DEODEXED]
COURTESY OF metiCkOne
[Release] OFFICIAL FRG22D - Deodexed, SU and Busybox - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Insaneneiviesis INSANELY CLEAN 1.3
[ROM Release] Insanely Clean v1.3 NEW Features-BUILT FROM SOURCE-MARKET FIXED-Insane! - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Jrummy LITHIUM MOD v1.0.12
[ROM] Lithium Mod - Source built awesomeness! Themes galore! - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Pl3x v3.0.0 [FROM SOURCE]
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/pl3...st-stable.html
Matt4542 EPIC 3.5
Epic 3.5 - August 30th. Download for a cookie - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Onix 2.0 RC1
ROMs | Onix Concepts
CyanogenMod 6 Final Rom
CyanogenMod-6 for the Moto Droid: SBFWHAT? V6.0.0 (08/27/2010) - CyanogenMod Forum
Liquid0624 Liquid Frozen Yogurt v1.6
LiQuID FroZeN YoGurT v1.6 (FRG22D BuILT FRoM SoUrCE!! GeT iT FaST BeFoRE iT MeLTs!) - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Xeodoxus's Dark Edge Froyo v0.8.1
[Release] DarkEdge UI 2.2 - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Ultimate Droid Froyo v8.0
Ultimate Droid Froyo eXtreme 8.0.0 - Droid - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Pete's Bugless Beast v0.4
[ROM STABLE] Bugless Beast V0.4 Android 2.2 FRF84B (Fully Deodexed) - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Chevycam94's Steel Droid v1.91
[RELEASE] Steel Droid 1.91 (FRG22D) - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Team Awesome's Rubik v2.0
[ROM] Much Waited For! Rubik 2.0 FRG22D! - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Woodyman's Succulent Desire v7.0
[Release] Succulent Desire v 7.0 - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
Birdman's Frozen Lovely Yogurt v0.6
[ROM] Frozen Lovely Yogurt 0.6 - Birdman - AllDroid Public Board - [ROM] Frozen Lovely Yogurt 0.6 - Birdman - AllDroid Public Board - Forum
Jamezelle's Sense 2.2 Rom [HTC SENSE PORT TO DROID] BETA NOT EVERYHTING WORKS BUT IS COOL AS HELL! CHECK IT OUT![url]
ChevyNo1's Simply Stunning v4.7
[url]
MetickOnes's MetickMod FRG22D Rom
[url]
Insaneneiviesis Shadow Rom Final
[url]
CVPCS's Sapphire 1.1.1
[url]
Benny879's Droid Evolution Rom
[url]
Project Elite Rom
[url]
Steel Droid 1.92
[url]
FROYO KERNELS
Slayher Kernels - Interactive Governor!
Froyo Kernels by slayher - CyanogenMod Forum
Dozens of Sapphire (w/CPU Temp) Kernels
Index of /sapphire/froyo/1.0.0/kernels/20100803.1
TopQuark's Extreme Overclocking Kernels
[url]
P3Droid's Sapphire Kernels
Kernels, Get Your Kernels, RED HOT Kernels! - Sapphire - 0.7.0 - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
ChevyNo1 (w/CPU Temp) Kernels
[8-1-2010] New Froyo Kernels - CPU Temp Monitoring is Back! - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
P3Droid Kernels
P3Droid Kernels
JDLFG Kernels
jdlfg kernels v.32.2.5 NEW - CyanogenMod Forum
JDLFG's LithiumMod Kernels
Lithium mod Kernels . Official kernel of Lithmod - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
CVPCS KERNELS - Interactive Governor!
[url]
BASEBANDS [DROID ONLY]
Stock from 2.1 Eclair
[url]
First (.00R)
Holy Cow, Another MyDroidRelease - Updated Radio File
Second (.01P)
[BASEBAND] C_01.43.01P (No Prerequisite Required!) - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum
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Nov 19, 2010
Some weird things are going on with my battery. I was running Liquid Froyo 1.9 and even 1.95 using slayher kernel and i even tried the p3droid kernel and when i reached about 40% battery, my battery would just jump to 20% and after that pretty quickly to about 5% and then its dead. I recently installed ultimate droid 2.0.0 also using slayher and even then it still did it. I don't understand why this is happening, i havn't even used my phone that much for it to reach 5% so fast, especially jump from 40 or 50% down to 20% in an instant.
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Jul 16, 2010
I've been through a lot of these forums and haven't found my particular problem discussed, so I'm finally posting hoping someone can help... I'm American but I live in Istanbul so the the Galaxy i7500 I've got didn't even come with the Market app and support here is impossible.
I've been able to flash stock and custom ROMs but I can't connect to my carrier (Turkcell) afterward. I can only use WiFi to do things like get access to the market, but then I have to do a restore to use my phone properly.
Currently I'm on:
PDA: I7500JTIH2
PHONE: I7500XEJC6
CSC: I7500TRCIH2
Can anyone explain how to extract the CSC from my phone so I can include when I flash a custom ROM with Odin?
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May 11, 2012
Any kernel for the evo 3d compatible with ICS (sense 3.6 or 4.0 doesn't matter) that allows for charging while phone is on? Tried downloading chad goodman's kernel but kept receiving a 404 error so that's a no-go... wondering if there are alternative kernels out there others are using?
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Oct 12, 2013
I was wondering if i can flash kyapat10mod3 using sgs kernel flasher on my SC-02B (SC02BOMLL1)? is it possible? I don't want to brick my phone.
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Oct 29, 2013
Often I find myself really liking a particular kernel for a particular device. The common problem I have found is that no CIFS support is added to the kernel. I have donated to several kernel devs.
However, usually my CIFS inquiries go unnoticed. I would like to add CIFS support to other people's kernels for my personal use on my device. I presume I will have to decompile and recompile kernels in the process?
Here is the specific case that I have :
Current setup:
Phone - Verizon Galaxy Note 2
ROM - Beans build 22 (Touchwiz)
Kernel - Perseus 36
I would like to use Imnuts' PBJ kernel. It doesn't support CIFS, whereas Perseus does. So in theory I could extract the CIFS modules and inject them into PBJ? I am curious if this can be done on Windows 7?
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Dec 20, 2011
i want to flash the kernel on my super stock p500 to fix the touchscreen lag bug cuz it's really bugging me and junk. i'm going to use "flash image gui" to flash the kernel cuz it sounds pretty safe.
remember, i have a super stock, lg p500 (optimus one) running froyo 2.2.
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May 11, 2013
I would like to know how to install kernels from the start and step by step. and if it affects the operation and information each i have the samsung galaxy yp-g70 (player 5) whith phisic boton
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Jul 27, 2010
So PSX4Droid finally got released from the clutches of Google Market about an hour ago. Only problem now is I can't seem to get any roms to work. I set up a PSXROMS folder on my SD card, and my first d/l was Metal Gear Solid disc 1 and 2. I got them from here PSX ISO Download Section. So I downloaded the .rar, unzipped to get the .bin (says it's compatible), open the emulator, the emulator sees the files in the folder, I click it, it refreshes the rom screen. The emulator doesn't start. Am I doing something wrong? Wrong file type?
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Nov 11, 2010
I'm looking to try out a few different kernels for my new Myn's warm ROM. Right now I'm using netachy-toastmod 4.1.9.1 CFS.Seems to work just fine, but I wonder if it could be better with say kings kernel. These and baked kernels seem to be the consensus for Warm.My question is what's the deal with CFS and BFS. What's the difference? I've searched and I'm having a hard time coming up with answers. I'm just wondering what I should be using.
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Aug 3, 2010
i have been running CyanogenMod6 test8 for awhile now, and I really like it. only problem I've seen so far is the camcorder which they've already mentioned so I knew that going into it. I have also been using a hydra kernel from their website hydrakernel.net and just now realized that the camera does not work with this kernel. so, my question is, are they any kernels besides the stock one that comes with the CM6 ROM? also, does the stock kernel with CM6 have wireless N capabilities? also, my settings > wireless & networks > tethering and portable hotspots > wireless hotspot does not work. is this a CM6 thing or is it a hydra kernel thing? I restored my phone to CM6 with the stock CM6 kernel and the portable hostpot works just fine. so that answers that part of my question.
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Aug 31, 2010
What is the difference between the BFS and CFS kernels
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Oct 12, 2010
what are the differences between bfs and cfs kernels?
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Oct 28, 2010
Difference between CFS and BFS kernels? Just wondering if anyone could help me out with this.
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Sep 27, 2010
I always have gotten great help here - and for all the talk of wiping dalvik and other caches, I haven't found a straight forward guide for now to prepare my phone for installation of a new kernel.I've been on skyraider awhile, and put King BFS 4 on. I'd like to go to the new BFS 5 and see if it improves the battery life.Can someone point me toward a simple guide of how to prepare the phone for a new kernel? I know how to install it. What caches need to be wiped? Can it be done through clockwork? I've already done the nandroid backup.
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Aug 23, 2010
There have been a few queries here and there about kernels which are noted as being overclocked by the developers of the ROMs they're used in.
Zach, the developer of the xtrROM series, tells me this about those kernels (when asked for clarification about them):
* A kernel that is capabile of being overclock does not mean the ROM is OC by default and you will have to review the devs OP to determine what they have done.
* Most DO NOT OC by default because they are using another devs kernels (there are only a few devs that know kernel code, I use Zanfurs) and
* IF it IS OC by default then you do not "need" SetCPU or other such app unless you want to use the custom profiles as you mentioned.
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Jul 16, 2010
Is there a mirror site or somewhere else I can get them?
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Aug 11, 2010
Hydra Kernels - Hydra Kernels Information
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Sep 18, 2010
So I have been playing around with different kernels and settings and logging them in System Panel. I will explain details below each pic. Usage was the similar each day with a little bit of tethering, alot of web surfing, imobsters texting and email with kids playing some games here and there as well. Running Fresh 3.2 with different kernels on different days. Monday night I installed Fresh 3.2 and ran the Fresh kernel with SetCPU ondemand and screen off profile and ran it the same way through Thursday. Late Thursday evening I installed Kings #9 bfs kernel and uninstalled SetCPU and ran it all day Friday Late Friday I reinstalled SetCPU and set it to conservative and ran it that way all day Saturday. As you can see, Tues, Wed, and Thurs were all very consistent. Tues I got appx 15-16 hours, Wed I got 14-15 hours and Thurs appx 12-13 hours. Friday was by far the best just letting the kernel do its thing with no SetCPU. Saturday sucked! Battery was dead by 6 pm with appx 9 hours use. I just flashed the Fresh stock kernel back on and uninstalled SetCPU and will see how that compares tomorrow. Sure would like to see the 1.5 days flipz is getting! I have read several places now that SetCPU may be counter productive since the newer kernels are managing things better lately. Does anybody know if the Fresh 3.2 stock kernel is using HAVS?
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Sep 3, 2010
Which one do you think is the best? I an running #5. My battery seems to drain somewhat quickly. Anyone using a different,one and getting good speed and battery life?
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Sep 27, 2010
Have been testing kernels the past few days, have a few thoughts:I've tried the Slayher v1.6 kernel, ChevyNo1's ULV, jdflg's, and p3droid's, all 1200mhz. With all kernels set to "on demand", I can't say for sure if any one gives more battery life than any other, my usage is too variable. P3Droid's are 125mhz base clock, while the others are 250 or 300mhz, but there wasn't an obvious difference with my use. I'm guessing at low clocks, processor drain is negligible unless you're going to be in a semi-sleep state for a long time. All kernels bench about the same, and P3Droid's don't feel any slower even with the lower base clock, which suggests to me that most kernel makers should consider including a sub-200mhz option. Kernels with "interactive governor" subjectively feel slightly faster when using interactive governor, but battery life is definitely a little shorter. All kernels seem equally stable. All kernels seem to run about the same temperature, with maybe a very slight edge to Chevy's ULV kernel (~2c loaded). Temperature monitoring is not very accurate. I turned on my phone earlier in class, to see a 13c CPU temp. That's about 8-10c below ambient. This is consistent on all kernels I have tried.
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Mar 10, 2010
I am thinking of flashing one of them tonight, but wanted to get some feedback from anyone who has been using them. Does wifi tether work? How stable do they seem? Any strange problems/bugs? Any replies are appreciated.
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Mar 24, 2010
I kno usually low voltage kernels are ment to save battery but on some phones can it do the opposite cause I'm trying adamz on low and I feel like I'm burning battery faster without even doin anyything on the phone.So could the low voltage kernel be the cause?
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Oct 17, 2010
I've been comfortable with my rooted HTC Inc for a few weeks not but I'm considering the possibility of going to ROMs to tinker with my phone even more. Still, I have a list of things that must always work:
Camera/Camcorder
Phone: Goes without saying.
LauncherPro
WidgetLocker
I've already made a Nanadroid backup, I'm going to purchase Titanium Backup this week for a full backing up of apps and everything else. The music, movies and photos are going to be backed up on the laptop. I've heard many times that ROM Manager makes the process rather painless. Is that still the case? Does it wipe if all I have is a newly rooted phone with wireless tether installed? I've read the answers stating no, when it's upgrading from say 2.7 to 3.0.
But otherwise? Is it really as I've read? ROM Manager, choose and let it install? (This, I'm not entirely certain of from what I've read on the boards.) At the moment, I'm looking towards Virtuous. What swayed me was the possibility of the HTC 3.0 sense when it's more stable and the fact that everything else that I'm looking at, such as: Hulu, DSP Audio are part of the Rom Manager setup. The last question I have is, is there a necessity in working with kernels immediately or can I just use what it comes with for now?
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Aug 23, 2010
Was pondering if anyone else notice, the stock browser being a tad bit slower (about 7 seconds) with a custom kernel, compared to stock.
Yes i have tried multiple kernels with the same results, i wonder why this is the case, i love the features (unlocked fps/Over-under clocking) of some of the custom kernels , but losing 7-8 seconds is rather annoying especially on 3G. Running Froyo btw.
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Oct 9, 2010
I wanna know your battery life along with your Rom and Kernel. I want a Sense Rom with great battery life. But everyones saying the MIUI has some good battery life. Right now I have Uncommon Sense v1.1 with King #5 Kernel. Not bad battery life, but not good neither. Also, can you post how much you use your phone?
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