Android :: Difference Between Clockwork And Titanium
Aug 18, 2010
What is the difference between these two backup solutions? I am rooted now with Clockwork Recovery installed via ROM Manager, and I have successfully created a "nandroid" backup with Clockwork.
Now, many that have Clockwork also use Titanium Backup for root users. What is the advantage of using Titanium, or does each backup method serve different purposes?
Is it that the nandroid backups can only be used on the same device on which it was created, and Titanium can be used when migrating to a new and different device in order to preserve app data?
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Sep 19, 2010
I've done all of the backups involved with gaining root for the first time (titanium and clockwork i guess?)
What are my options for restoring?
I would love to try other roms or other things requiring a wipe, but id hate to re-download all apps and change all settings all over again.
For my first wipe, i ended up downloading each app one by one. Im assuming there is a more convenient way?
Can i also restore phone settings if i want to?
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Sep 30, 2012
I was just wondering why the app size in android (Settings > Applications > Manage applications) is different to the size in Titanium backup (Overview of app storage use) and which one is the correct size?
eg. According to titanium backup, the total size of Jelly defense is 51.6MB whereas android says that it's 112KB
Angry Birds size is 18.5MB according to titanium but only 1.30MB in android.
Skype is 16.7MB according to titanium but only 2.11MB in android.
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May 11, 2013
The ROM that I use on my phone pretty much discourages dirty flashing updates [CM10.1 based]. So for the last 10 or so updates, I have clean wiped my HTC Rezound, then restored from a TitaniumBackup.
First I disabled compression of backups.
Then to restore I go to /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ and run a bash command:
# for i in *.apk; do pm install "$i"; done
Then I go to TitaniumBackup, and every app is installed but doesn't have my data. So then I batch restore my data for my apps [Pretty much only user apps, except a few system things like SMS, WiFi networks]. But the problem is, recently, TitaniumBackup will quit halfway through a batch restore of "Data only." So I've been manually restoring data 1 by 1 for the apps that I need data to be saved across rom updates.
But then I thought, "Hey, why can't I just backup my /data/data/ folder?" but then I also thought that would probably be like a dirty flash.
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Jul 19, 2010
I seem to need this file: www.droidaftermarket.com
which is now a dead link. When I try to "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" via ROM Manager, it tells me "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands."
In the now-defunct IDIOT-PROOF ROOT GUIDE, it says to remedy this by loading the file linked above, but again, a dead link provides no help.
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Sep 23, 2010
I used Cockwork with UnrEVOked 3.2 and made a nandroid backup. I had to switch to AmonRA to install the new lockscreen for Fresh 3.2
My question is, will I break anything If I switch back to Clockwork? Since that's the format of my backup I currently have, I want to go back.
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Oct 6, 2010
I rooted with the 2.2 unrevoked forever method. I installed the fresh custom ROM and ROM manager, but when I try to use ROM manager, it tells me that I have to have Clockwork Recovery installed.
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Aug 2, 2010
How to do I switch out of clockwork? I was not using it before, I think it was RA? I tried rom manager and now have clockwork, I would just re-root but I am now on fresh 3.0 and want to use his updater. Any help?
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Nov 25, 2010
1) Instead of using ROM manager/clockwork(?), how can I wipe the cache/dalvik manually? What exactly do I need to do?
2) When I flashed RLS3, I followed the steps in the thread "Rooting for dummies." All went well, except I had to completely set everything back up. Is there a 'magic' button I can push that will restore all my settings after flashing Myn's RLS4?
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Sep 11, 2010
Amon backups are around 180 megs. I was wondering why the hell it was taking so long to transfer the clockwork recovery to my computer. its 750 megs! For the backup of the same phone state as the 180 meg one!
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Sep 15, 2010
so to start off let me go into detail with my personal experience with the Rom Manager and ClockworkMod applying Velocity .2: After getting my phone up and running with the new Velocity .2 (Don't forget to tell Trident how awesome he is) I decided to get my girlfriends Ally going with it as well. Her Ally had Drellisdee's 1.2.2 Recovery already installed so I tried to apply the ROM via that, I was halted by a signature verification error. No big deal, I just flashed it with ClockWorkMod on my own Ally so I downloaded the RomManager to go about using the other Recovery.
After installing the ROM Manager I tried to flash the recovery, it requested SU Permissions which I allowed then it force closed. I reopened the program then flashed the recovery again with no errors. I then downloaded the Velocity .2 ROM from the manager and attempted to apply. First thing I noticed is the manager did not give me an option to clear Dalvik Cache. I tried to proceed anyway. When the phone rebooted it got stuck on the LG Logo, scary, very scary. I pulled the battery, held SEND MENU END, and again, got stuck at the LG Logo. Pulled the battery again, powered on normally and it booted up (not to recovery though) so I ended up flashing the ClockWork Recovery manually...........
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Sep 12, 2010
Drellisdee has a post on here that makes it easy just download his recovery and do this. just do steps 4 5 6 and 7 over again. its that easy, but make sure you at least have a copy of the 1.2.2 in both the root of the SD card and the tools folder. and MAKE SURE YOU RENAME FROM 1.13 to 1.2.2
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Aug 31, 2010
I'm trying to get rid of clockwork recovery mode so that I can recieve the OTA. I've tried the process from the how to unroot by downgrading but when I boot into HBOOT it just goes to the regular screen. My phone is stock except for superuser permissions. I have the stock 1.00.03.04.06 radio. So how do I go about removing clockwork recovery mode so I can update via OTA.
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Jul 7, 2010
What're the differences? Advantages? Clockwork has been working flawlessly for me so I don't plan to switch, but Amon Ra's recovery keeps coming up in threads I'm reading.
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Nov 12, 2010
this is the only one click i could get to work for my phone. just extract all the contents into a folder and run it. worked first time for me when nothing else would, and trust me i tried everything. i hope this helps some one. One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.4.0 Now has ClockworkMod!
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Jul 22, 2010
I downloaded the application ROM manager and then I installed the Clockwork Mod recovery and now I'm hearing that it can end up bricking your phone so I want to know how to get Amon's recovery image back... When I look in the ROM manager application the flash alternate recovery is greyed out so I need another way to do it.
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Jul 21, 2010
Has anybody tried to partition their SD card yet in prep for 2.2/Apps2SD? If so, it's be nice to get a procedure documented here since many of us will have the need for this in the hopefully near future.
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Nov 8, 2010
Which one do you like on your N1 and why? I currently have Amon, but am always looking for bigger, better things and wondering if I should switch.
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Jan 18, 2013
My antivirus shows a virus in the clockwork mod but I am not sure whether it is a virus or a program to root the phone. Whether I delete it or keep it. The name of the file is shown as riskware!lotoor.d@android. Is it a part of clock word mod or is it actually a malware.
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Apr 5, 2012
I have a couple of nandroid backups from an older version of clockwork recovery mod. The first one is of the official Android 2.1 that came with my Hauawei U8100, and the rest are from a Cynogen ROM of Android 2.3. I recently updated my clockwork recovery mod, and now i can only restore the first backup fully, and the rest can only restore the ROM, but give me a "android_secure.img not found" error, and don't restore data. Is there a way to update the backup to the new version? Is the version upgrade even the problem?
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Nov 23, 2010
Rom Manager won't flash clockwork mod I try to flash it and eventually says program is not responding, same thing happens with the alternate recovery option. What can I do ?
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Nov 15, 2010
I'm new to this whole thing but I do have experience flashing other mobile devices in the past. Before I get flamed for this post let me just say that I have been reading possible fixes for this phone for a week straight. I've probably clocked in about 30 hours and I really wanna throw this phone against a wall.So here's the story:I got my Ally a week ago and rooted it using androot and everything went fine. The phone was rooted could install apps using Astro and everything. The problem is that I also wanna overclock this phone because I've read some pretty cool results. So I know I need to load in Velocity (or at least it's the most recommended), so I used ROM manager to install clockwork, tried to boot into the recovery and the phone just stayed stuck on the LG screen.(yes I checked the box to wipe data, cache and make a backup) After doing more research I find out that there is another recovery made by drellisdee and that it is also in rom manager so I try flashing that recovery and the same thing happens I get stuck on the LG screen. (The only way I can get out of this screen is by battery pulling).
After this didn't work I wiped my SD card in hopes of starting over, but when my phone rebooted suddenly now I have no internet access through verizon(still have wifi). So now my so called smart phone has become nothing more than a phone with wifi. I really need some help here, I've genuinely tried fixing it myself but nothing seems to work.I really hope I didn't just ruin my phone. Update: Just tried to make a call with my phone and it forwards me to a verizon wireless thing asking me to put in my credit card to make a collect call. Did I just get banned?
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Sep 10, 2010
was messing around with framework-res and phone wouldn't reboot so i just thought i'll adb in from recovery and replace with the backup and for some reason i have no adb in recover.
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Jul 12, 2010
I have tried 3 different pcs and 1 iMac to install Clockwork Recovery using Unrevoked2. With each pc it says there is a communication failure after rebooting the phone, and with my iMac it just sits at waiting for reboot. Is there any alternative way to install the recovery because I really want to install some custom roms
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Jun 19, 2010
This morning I saw that there was an update to clockwork, version 2.0.0.5. I flashed it and tried to do a rom restore but couldn't get into recovery. I eventually had to flash back to the previous recovery and do the restore.
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Oct 4, 2010
So I've been rooted for about 2 weeks now on my new incredible and I have not had any problems so this is just a curiosity question. There is a zip on the base of my SD card named update.zip. Now i think I narrowed it down to the flash clockwork recovery in Rom manager and I was wondering if this file should be there at all times or is i the latest clockwork that keeps getting placed when I activate that flash that doesn't need to be there?
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Apr 2, 2010
is there benefits one over the other whats been your experiences
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May 11, 2010
I'm currently running SPR 3b, but I would like to be able to use the ROM Manager for updates on my NexBeast 1.0 ROM. Is it difficult to go from Clockword to SPR and back if need be?
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Nov 17, 2010
I rooted my dx and then i unrooted because I really don't know what I'm doing just figured I would go back stock. So I uninstalled clockwork, rom manager. And I didn't flash any roms so it still is stock right? Well when I powered off and then on it brings up the clockwork bootloader screen and i have done a factory reset and it's still on there. I am not rooted i unistalled all the root only apps, I can't find where this stuff is hiding or do I just scroll down to wipe data/factory option on the clockwork recovery? I hit the first option and it boots up fine! Figure if anything happens and I need to take to verizon they will definitely know.Just trying to go back to factory fresh.
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Jun 6, 2010
Every time i go into nandroid and choose the folder i click every single restore boot and everything and all it says is md5 mismatch..
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