HTC Eris :: Undervaluing / Battery Save Without CPU Killer
May 4, 2010
Ok, so im not really as concerned about overclocking the CPU, but since the phone is basically a computer. I am curious if anyone knows how to undervolt the CPU? This can easily be done on laptops with the help of apps like rightmark CPU. Basically you keep the clock speed the same (or overclock it) but you reduce the voltage at each cpu cycle. You do this on a laptop with an application such as rightmark and you continue to undervolt until your system crashes. Which basically means your CPU has become unstable. Then you raise the voltage a few notches back up to the point before the crash and run it for a few days.why would anyone care? Well the effect is you keep the same speed (or faster) BUT you use less energy.... which means longer battery times. I've undervalued the last 3 laptops I've had two half the voltage. Now my hunt begins for an undervolt app for Android. The semiconductor manufactures leave a "generic" setting. But, each piece of silicon is different, and came from relatively different parts of a wafer. So some parts can hold up to less voltage without becoming unstable. Hence why one cpu can be undervalued dramatically and others (of the exact same chip set) can barely get undervalued without crashing right away. This is why they leave it at a generic safer voltage.
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Sep 4, 2010
I officially want to know from real life experience, have any of you noticed an improvement in battery life by utilizing the program Advanced Task Killer (ATK). Yes or No.
I've heard arguments for and against using ATK which people have claimed could save battery life by killing off background aps and processes that hinder battery life by using the CPU in the background.
Some people say it works, others say "dude you are an idiot, you must not know anything about Android or linux, Aps don't run in the background with Android, its the beauty of Android" or something to that effect.
Maybe I'm an Idiot, but here is my experience. I have used my phone for periods of time, with and without ATK. I can deffinately say from my own real life experience, that running ATK improves my battery life. Maybe its a mental placebo effect I dont know. For those who say it doesn't work, I just have one common sense question, so here it goes. If Android is so smart, and it doesn't run background aps on it's own, which would use up energy, then why the heck does AmazonMP3 load up by it's self every 2 mins in the background. I never even use the stupid program, so common sense says if Android doesn't run background Aps like AmazonMP3, then how does it mysteriously show up on the list as being used in the background? Also I've read on xda people who root their phone, and manually remove programs like this, and they saw an improvement in battery life, isn't that more proof that indeed these programs use some energy in the background, thus ATK does help?
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May 20, 2010
Thought it would be a prudent thread to list all of the battery killing apps and processes (ie don't shut down right)that have been found in 2.1. The one that I found, the hard way after 3 straight days of only getting 10 hours of battery life, is the Google Talk service. I accidentally opened it and System Panel didn't kill it. I only found it by looking at Battery Uses>Running Services.
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Feb 9, 2010
Do you turn your internet off to save battery? I started doing this and works great. I got the widget on my home page and turn it after use.
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Dec 28, 2009
APNdroid is a great android app and comes with a widget that effectively turns off data but still enable text/voice. It's great for a day of snowboarding when you only need the essentials but need the battery to last! The battery was only at 75% by the end of the day for me. Check it out, it's a very high quality and professional app.
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Jul 26, 2010
So, I'm using the .3 of the UV Stock Hydra Kernal (not really concerned with OCing my DINC as it was plenty fast before.)However, I managed to squeeze a good 26+ hours out of my 1500 mAH battery this sunday with pretty heavy use. So I think the UV is working well, that's even running ADW. However, I also noticed some things may be running slower. Could this be attributed to the UV kernel I'm running now?
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Apr 30, 2010
I was just wondering if anyone had the same issue as I do, with about 44% of my battery use coming from the notorious call standby.
I heard some speculation that this is akin to the issue with the Eris 2.1, so it would be solved by the Airplane Mode trick, but I have not found any results favoring that remedy.
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Jul 2, 2010
I just installed AppBrain Market yesterday. I have done one phone power off since then. I was just looking in at apps in my System Panel app and noticed that the AppBrain market is listed as cached but is still hitting the cpu like every couple seconds. Anyone else noticed this behavior? Is this normal? I'm going to try manually killing the app.
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Feb 17, 2010
By the end of the school day today, I noticed my battery was at 35%. It normally never goes that low while I am out, So i checked the "usage" menu and facebook was using like 65% of the battery! and guess what, I though I took care of the problem my task killing it, but I just opened up my "usage" menu again, and this is what I have?
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Aug 23, 2010
Im getting mixed reviews on using app killer. Some say yes others say no. Im looking to maximize my battery power. So please explain why it would be better to use or not use a app killer? ex. Advanced Task Killer
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Oct 1, 2010
I just FR my Incredible to try to improve the battery life, and the battery widget I used to have by HTC Corporation is no longer in the Market! Does anyone else have suggestions for the best widget they've found? I liked the HTC widget because you could see more details when you clicked the icon as well as the relatively small icon size. Also, is it really better to not install Advanced Task Killer??
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Sep 27, 2010
Task killer + battery boost
Is it safe and good to use task killer and batter boost? My battery life is very short. After i loaded the BATTERY BOOST in - this apps shown 3 tabs.
1. Monitor
2. Preference
3. Kill Task
- The battery stayed for long time but i see many people say dont use these ...
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May 24, 2010
Merely turning your phone on may be enough to prevent it from sleeping. What I'm about to tell you is 100% repeatable. I've done it about ten times now; it has happened every time. I'm running the stock Android 2.1 ROM from Sprint. <Background> When Android boots, it preloads a huge number of apps into RAM. Essentially, it's starting JVM processes and loading the classes of applications without actually executing any of their code. Android does this to reduce the lag you would feel when activating one of these apps. These preloaded apps are said to be EMPTY. There's no real penalty for preloading these apps since they're loaded in the background in otherwise idle CPU cycles and their processes will be terminated as needed to free up RAM for applications you begin using. </Background>
Although it should be impossible, one of those preloaded apps is preventing the Hero from sleeping. By process of elimination, I have found which one it is: Footprints.............
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Mar 14, 2010
What is the best task killer. I was using ATK but it would start out at like 60 know free then with in hours be down to 30 with no running apps showing and with the phone just sitting there. Also how do they work and why do some apps keep reappearing like footprints.
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Aug 21, 2010
I finally took the plunge and rooted with xtrSense, does a root need a task killer like the stock did?
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Dec 31, 2009
Should I get a task manager/killer app? I have read good and bad about these apps. My phone works pretty darn good without one.
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Jul 25, 2010
my eris is slow....i've got task killer pro and use it often...texting just one person takes forever..to the point where i'd much rather hook up to pdanet and text from my computer....when i try to load it up..it takes a minute to load up...try to type..it takes a minute to fully load so i can start typing..which normally ends up in all caps or symbols and i have to erase and type it all over again..cause it finally caught up...then sending it..it has loading...that takes forever..then for it to finally pop up on the screen takes another long time...
My eris normally runs with 64 memory when i do task killer..thats about the average...this is like my storm all over again..without the battery pulls..
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Dec 20, 2009
for some reason ever since i installed this its been sucking my battery dry.. this shouldn't be happening should it?
also - how do u find out what applications are running and how much memory you have (or is this what advanced task killer tells you?)
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Dec 3, 2009
I have used both Taskpanel and Advanced Task Killer. Both re-boots the phone after closing all background apps.
Anyone have another good one I can try?
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Jul 3, 2010
I want a task killer that automatically kills processes when they load. Some apps like HTC sense and the built in messanger app I would love having them killed instantly, is there one that i can get? Before you say, yes the Eris DOES need a task killer. Asked any eris user, once it gets below 30 MB of ram, it slows down to a near halt. They majority of thos for me is processes that load without me telling them too, and ons that I never use, such as htc sense or the default messager apps. I'm rooted btw.
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Apr 3, 2010
I just noticed that Astro has a built-in task killer. (Please no more about if we NEED a task killer) What I like about the killer on astro is that it lets me see how much memory and cpu a task or process is actually using before I kill it. I rarely use a task killer. Only when a task seems to be hanging up. It looks like Astro has the functionality I need, so I will remove Advanced Task Killer.
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Nov 15, 2009
I downloaded atk a couple days ago and everything worked great! Last night my phone died. When I charged it and turned it back on this morning I went into task killer to clear out all the apps that turn on automatically and then I hit home. Whenever I did this before, it took me back to the home page, no problem. Now I get a black page with HTC on it and then it resets the home page and I lose my weather. Eventually, it comes back, but why all the sudden am I getting the black HTC screen?
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Feb 11, 2010
My Droid Eris still lags very bad even when clearing cache and adding a task killer. Anything else that can be done?
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Jul 8, 2010
I finally deleted Advanced Task Killer. Ever since getting my Eris, I have been dependent upon it. I have in fact been obsessed with it, making sure I clicked the ATK widget to kill all programs before ever putting my phone to sleep. I was obsessed with battery life and the Messages App issue. Now, I am giving it a shot.
My two biggest concerns are phone speed and battery life. My battery life has been fine, mostly because I shut my 3G off when I am at home or work. My phone speed has been lagging considerably, and I am hoping that deleting ATK, along with deleting some unused Apps and clearing the cache, will help keyboard lag and general app lag. I will keep you posted to see what happens. I am excited, I know that a lot of you have highly suggested not using Task Killers, and I am excited to not be bound by it. However after a week if I notice considerable battery life loss, and no considerable difference in device speed, I may reinstall it. We shall see!
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Mar 27, 2010
I have an HTC eris and lately I've been having an issue with atm. Every time I have it kill my tasks it takes me to the HTC screen (the one that appears during start-up) and then "please wait" appears with my wallpaper in the background. It does still kill the tasks however it has never done this before and it seems abnormal. Ive heard that task managers can be bad for your phone?
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Mar 8, 2010
With Advanced Task Killer, which apps should I exclude to avoid poor app performance. For example, I realized after reading another thread today that I should exclude the Weather Channel widget. I could not figure out why the weather conditions did not update automatically. Excluded the widget and now it updates. Any other apps that are similar?
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Jun 7, 2010
Ok I'll admit it I've been watching Engadget's live blog of the iPhone 4 debut. Something interesting stuck out at me however. In one of the keynote slides, Jobs pointed out the iPhone actually gets better battery life while on WiFi vs 3G. Normally I switch WiFi off when I'm not using data, syncing will still access 3G when I'm at home and I'll do occasional browsing at home as well. Would I be better off accessing data using WiFi when available rather than 3G? I guess a better way to pose the question is, does the 3G radio use more power then WiFi?
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May 2, 2010
I'm getting pretty crap battery life out of my desire and I've had it over a week now. I'm having to charge twice a day, if not three times a day as I'm canning the hell out of it!) But now as my usage starts to drop, what's the best way to conserve the batttery with quick touches when its not being used? I press and hold the power switch and then select to turn off internet. Does this also prevent stuff going on in the background like sync auto update etc. ? I'm seeing roughly 30 to 40 percent battery being used by the Android system, and about 20 to 30 percent being used by cell standby. There's various settings and ways to stop internet I've found, but is there a way to nip all that energy zapping stuff quickly when the phones not being used, and then activate it again quickly when you wanna have a play. Us there anyway to get those percentages for the Android system down?
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Mar 19, 2013
what is the best way to save battery?
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May 3, 2010
I can't figure out how to get my Eris to save deleted and saved emails under Exchange ActiveSync. Can anyone help with that?
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